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from: paul stamler
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hi folks:
two friends of mine, midwestern performers paul and win grace, are going on
a long-delayed honeymoon in france this month. (how long was it delayed?
long enough for their first daughter to graduate from college. but i
digress.) any suggestions of places they might go to hear traditional music?
(or see traditional dance?)
(please note: i'm sending this to three lists; sorry for the cross-posting,
but it seems like the best way to reach as many folks as possible. watch
reply addresses if you want to save bandwidth.)
peace.
paul
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date: wed, 03 may 2000 01:14:23 -0500
from: paul stamler
subject: more fw: france
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from: bill mccarthy
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sent: tuesday, may 02, 2000 12:41 pm
subject: france
in brittany, in the summer, towns have dances in their local halls (like
high school or church halls, really gyms, but function as community
centers.) we were at one in mellac. wonderful bagpipe music and other
kinds of music (including two guys who provided mouth music for a whole
forty-five minute set of dancing.) the dancing is a folk dance, but fairly
easy to learn. we would dance behind a row until we got the hang of it,
and then people would open the row up to let us in. (the dances are done
in rows, sort of like a line dance, but mostly sort of not like one.) it
was exhilarating and wonderful fun. i recommend it to anyone. besides,
brittany is where carnac, st. malo, and mont st. michael are-- all
world-class sites -- and quimper pottery. there are dances like this all
over brittany, and since they are local, not tourist, they might take place
on any night of the week.
tell them to enjoy. i can't wait to get back.
bill mccarthy
penn state
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date: wed, 03 may 2000 11:36:24 -0500
from: paul stamler
subject: fw: dance in france
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from: m sheffield
to: paul stamler
sent: wednesday, may 03, 2000 5:10 am
subject: dance in france
this person seems to organize plenty of events:
for paris:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/beig/bals.html
for normandy:
"si leur voyage les porte vers la normandie, c'est avec plaisir que nous
pourrions les acceuillir à saint-lo où je suis présidente d'une
association de folk (ateliers de danses et musique, bals)
annick grand-guillot 02.33.05.54.18
4 rue de la source 50000 saint-lo."
other urls -- sans garantie:
camps & festivals outside the usa: www.itdnet.net/selmatic/folkdance
british & european festivals: www.froots.demon.co.uk/fests99.html
european events: www.trad.org/bals.en.html
european events: http://gallery.uunet.be/aads/aadslinks.htm
european festivals: www.geocities.com/broadway/wing/6246/page10.html
european festivals: www.trad.org/danse.en.html#festivals_folklore
www.folkthings.com
martin,
in grenoble, france.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/scots.in.france/index.htm
(dance groups, some new dances, cycling ...)
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date: wed, 03 may 2000 13:14:04 -0400
from: patricia ruggiero
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paul, might these dances have been branles? there used to be (maybe still
is) a breton dance discussion group; folks would describe the hypnotic
effect of these simple, and very old, dances. i'm not certain but these
branles might be the same ones described by arbeau, or perhaps variations on
them.
from the way these folks talked, if i were travelling to brittany i'd
certainly want to participate in these dances.
pat
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sent: wednesday, may 03, 2000 2:14 am
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from: bill mccarthy
to:
sent: tuesday, may 02, 2000 12:41 pm
subject: france
in brittany, in the summer, towns have dances in their local halls (like
high school or church halls, really gyms, but function as community
centers.) we were at one in mellac. wonderful bagpipe music and other
kinds of music (including two guys who provided mouth music for a whole
forty-five minute set of dancing.) the dancing is a folk dance, but fairly
easy to learn. we would dance behind a row until we got the hang of it,
and then people would open the row up to let us in. (the dances are done
in rows, sort of like a line dance, but mostly sort of not like one.) it
was exhilarating and wonderful fun. i recommend it to anyone. besides,
brittany is where carnac, st. malo, and mont st. michael are-- all
world-class sites -- and quimper pottery. there are dances like this all
over brittany, and since they are local, not tourist, they might take place
on any night of the week.
tell them to enjoy. i can't wait to get back.
bill mccarthy
penn state
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archive-date: wed, 03 may 2000 14:56:49 pst
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help! sharon, et al! having completed our 13th annual fried-for-all weekend
we need to think immediately about scheduling the next one. (no rest for the
weary.) i know next year's april calendar won't be so forgiving, which leaves
may & (as a last resort) june. please e-mail me offlist (unless you consider
the info of general interest) if you're aware of any english dance events
planned for the geographical area which extends from slightly south of nyc or
even philadelphia (from which we got some lovely dancers this year)
throughout greater new england.
thanks! (& thanks to you beautiful dancers & mgm for making the weekend the
best ever!!!!)
judy g.
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archive-date: wed, 03 may 2000 17:22:54 pst
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date: wed, 03 may 2000 20:07:22 -0400 (eastern daylight time)
from: "carol g. marsh"
subject: historical dance program, amherst early music festival
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please excuse the cross postings; i'm sending this
announcement as an attachment as well.
announcement:
historical dance program and performance opportunities
at
amherst early music festival
july 30-august 6, 2000 and august 6-13, 2000
university of connecticut at storrs
this year's theme:
"music of england: medieval, renaissance and baroque."
faculty:
kaspar d. mainz, carol marsh, gene murrow and dorothy olsson.
for faculty bios, see: http://www.best.com/~aem/fac2000.htm
dance classes:
dance is an integral part of the amherst early music festival; classes will be offered in renaissance and baroque dance, dance notation, and english country dance. all levels of dancers are welcome.
week i (july 30-august 6)
9-10:30 am
late renaissance dance technique. kaspar mainz, dorothy olsson.
technique and dances from fabritio caroso, cesare negri and the english inns of court manuscripts, with some preparation for the theater project, the masque of gypsies. students must also be enrolled in the late pm class.
10:45 am - 12:15 pm
trips, maggots and jigs: 17th- and 18th- century english country dances. carol marsh.
this class will explore some of the lesser known english dances published by playford, walsh and their successors. these group dances, with their emphasis on figures rather than footwork, are often given fanciful titles. "maggots" (trifles or fancies) were often named after renowned dancing masters; over 100 maggots survive from the years 1690 to 1790. other country dance titles refer to prominent spas or vacation destinations; "trip to paris" is perhaps the most famous, but trips to many other sites are also featured. country dance jigs are usually lively; the class will explore some possibilities for steps.
1:30 -3 pm
beginning renaissance and baroque dance. dorothy olsson.
introduction to renaissance and baroque court dances from italy, france, and england, including the bassedanse, pavan, branles, alman, galliard, bourée, saraband, gigue and minuet.
1:30 -3 pm
the art of the english country dance. gene murrow. techniques and repertory of the popular longways and set dances of the 17th- and 18th- centuries as re-interpreted by cecil sharp and his followers at the start of the 20th-century. english country dancing is accessible to novices, yet provides aesthetic and technical challenges to experienced dancers. everyone enjoys the social interactions, the variety of forms, the charming and beautiful music, and the many concordances with the music, theater, literature, and politics of the time.
3:30-5:30 pm
the masque of gypsies. kaspar mainz, dorothy olsson. rehearsal of dances for the masque of gypsies. first meeting, 4 pm, sunday, july 30. tue., wed., thu. evening rehearsals. performance friday evening, august 4.
week ii (august 6-13)
9-10:30 am
baroque dance technique. kaspar mainz, dorothy olsson.
technique class in 18th-century social and theatrical dance, with a special emphasis on english sources. some preparation for the theatre project, the tempest. students must also be enrolled in the late pm class.
10:45 am - 12:15 pm
tanz/dance: connections between german and english baroque dance. kaspar mainz.
france was the birthplace of what is referred to today as baroque dance, but because of the close political and social connections between the french court & those of england and germany, this style of dance spread quickly to both countries. in england, choreographers such as josias priest, isaac, and anthony l'abbé created choreographic masterpieces that were widely admired, while in germany dancing masters such as samuel behr, johann pasch and gottfried taubert not only choreographed but also published treatises detailing the german "take" on the french style. this course will compare some of the german and english treatises and choreographies, and see how they relate to the french originals.
1:30 -3 pm
rounds and winding heyes to tread. dorothy olsson. renaissance dances of england and the continent with an emphasis on popular choreographic shapes.
3:30-5:30 pm
the tempest. kaspar mainz, dorothy olsson. rehearsal of dances for performance of matthew locke's the tempest, with the baroque academy orchestra. possible wed. and thu. evening rehearsals. performance friday evening, august 11.
performance opportunities:
participants will also have the opportunity, unusual among summer workshops, to perform in a theatrical production, with costumes and to the accompaniment of live music.
the first week's production will be "the masque of gypsies," directed by grant herreid, member of several early music ensembles including piffaro, hesperus, artek and ex umbris. the show will feature late renaissance dances and english country dances. dance directors: kaspar d. mainz, dorothy olsson
during the second week we will offer "the tempest," a late seventeenth-century setting of shakespeare's story set to music by matthew locke and others. baroque dances will feature prominently in the production, which will be accompanied by the semi-professional baroque academy orchestra, performing on original instruments. jennifer griesbach (uc berkeley) and david tayler (arcadian academy) will direct the production. dance directors: kaspar d. mainz, dorothy olsson
testimonial about the historical dance program from a dance educator
"my experience at amherst opened a rich and stimulating new world of knowledge about medieval, renaissance, and baroque dance and music. it was an intensive 2 weeks that gave me very concrete specific skills and dances that i have used as springboards for my own choreography, as the basis for a course on western theatrical dance for high school students, and as a lively educational addition to my middle school dance composition classes. the teachers are active in the field, knowledgeable and able to convey the material clearly and with a great sense of fun. the opportunity to perform this material with period instruments is a rare and privileged experience."
enrollment information and application form for the historical dance program
please read this section carefully before applying!
fees
tuition (includes admission to all concerts and special events): $290 per week; both weeks: $480 ($100 discount!) for those enrolled in dance classes only (instrumental & vocal classes are extra; inquire)
work-study aid for tuition is available; check box below to receive application, and mail form with a tuition deposit of $100/wk (this is the minimum tuition required of all students) plus the $25 registration fee. if aem cannot award sufficient aid for you to attend, your tuition deposit will be refunded in full.
registration fee $25, non-refundable, not included in tuition. waived for those whose full tuition payment is received before may 30.
room & board per week, per person
--double occupancy: hall bath, no ac--$295/wk; private bath, no ac--$365;
semi-private bath, ac--$405.
--single occupancy: hall bath, no ac--$355; private bath, no ac--$415;
semi-private bath, ac--$495.
you will be billed for this in june. lower-cost housing is available for
work-study students; inquire.
transient housing
--double occupancy: $25-55 per night per person.
--single occupancy: $35-65, depending on amenities.
credit card payment
amherst early music can now accept credit card payment. send type of card (mc, visa, amex, discover), number, expiration date, your name as it appears on the card, the total you wish to charge, and your signature. (we regret that we can accept checks in u. s. dollars only.)
enrollment
all applications must be accompanied by payment (either full tuition payment or registration fee of $25 and tuition deposit of $100 per week. tuition money is fully refundable till june 1, all but $50 till july 1, all but $100 after july 1; no refunds after july 31. exception for work-study students: if we cannot provide enough assistance for your needs, your deposit will be refunded in full. all applicants will receive detailed information about classes, housing, travel, and scheduling in june.
you may enroll in one of three ways:
a) apply by e-mail! copy the application form below into a new document--do not use the reply function!! complete the form, including your computations and credit card info; e-mail it to amherst-at-
compuserve.com
remember--do not use the reply function!
b) print out the form below, fill it in, and mail it with your check made out to amherst early music, to:
amherst early music, 65 west 95th street #1a, new york, ny 10025-6796
c) use a paper brochure (remember paper?). if you are on our mailing list, you will be receiving a paper copy of the dance brochure and application within the next 2-3 weeks. if you want to apply by brochure but suspect you are not on our mailing list, or if you can't come to the workshop but would like to be on our mailing list anyway, just copy the form down through "instrument", put it into a new document, fill it in, and e-mail it to us at amherst-at-
compuserve.com and you will receive communications from us for life!
the amherst early music festival is an activity of amherst early music, inc., which reserves the right to modify programs and faculty rosters in response to enrollment and student preferences. amherst early music is a not-for-profit arts corporation (id# 13-3345308) which relies for its support on the generosity of corporate and individual donors. all donations are fully tax-deductible under the law.
amherst early music, 65 west 95th street #1a, new york, ny 10025-6796
phone: 212-222-3351, fax: 212-222-1898
e-mail: amherst-at-
compuserve.com
website: www.best.com/~aem
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application form
name:
address:
city:
state:
zip+4 or postal code:
country:
home phone:
day phone (if different from above):
fax:
e-mail address:
cell phone:
instrument: dance
__________________________________________________
i need to receive forms for work-study tuition aid___
full tuition _____
-- or -
deposit: _____
registration fee: $25
(if sending only deposit
or if applying after may 20)
subtotal: _____
tax-deductible contribution: _____
total: ________
credit card type:
your name as it appears on the card:
credit card number:
expiration date:
i would like to enroll in:
1st week__
2nd week__
both weeks__
i need to receive application forms for work/study tuition
aid__
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professor carol g. marsh
school of music, uncg
greensboro, nc 27402-6167
phone: 336 334-5421 fax: 336 334-5497
e-mail: c_marsh-at-
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archive-date: wed, 03 may 2000 17:49:57 pst
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date: wed, 03 may 2000 17:52:56 -0700
from: kimberly mckittrick
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playford.slac.stanford.edu
subject: re: more fw: france
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references:
there still is a breton/french dance discussion list, run by ray price,
a great musician/dancer/teacher who lives in santa cruz. if anyone is
interested, ray's web site is www.spiraldance.net.
based on bill's description, i'd guess that the dance he attended in
mellac was a traditional breton event called a fest noz (night
festival), with traditional breton dances, such as the an dro, hanter
dro, plinn, etc. the dances are, for the most part, danced in circles
or spirals. they have small steps, and are danced close to the ground
(so that you can dance them all night), and don't have the leaping that
some of the branles have. the music is traditionally binou (breton
bagpipe) and bombarde, or kan ha diskan (breton for mouth music). the
tunes are lovely, and the dances are wonderfully hypnotic.
kimberly
patricia ruggiero wrote:
>
> paul, might these dances have been branles? there used to be (maybe still
> is) a breton dance discussion group; folks would describe the hypnotic
> effect of these simple, and very old, dances. i'm not certain but these
> branles might be the same ones described by arbeau, or perhaps variations on
> them.
>
> >from the way these folks talked, if i were travelling to brittany i'd
> certainly want to participate in these dances.
>
> pat
>
> -----original message-----
> from: owner-ecd-at-
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> [mailto:owner-ecd-at-
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> sent: wednesday, may 03, 2000 2:14 am
> to: paul & win grace; ecd list
> subject: more fw: france
>
> ----- original message -----
> from: bill mccarthy
> to:
> sent: tuesday, may 02, 2000 12:41 pm
> subject: france
>
> in brittany, in the summer, towns have dances in their local halls (like
> high school or church halls, really gyms, but function as community
> centers.) we were at one in mellac. wonderful bagpipe music and other
> kinds of music (including two guys who provided mouth music for a whole
> forty-five minute set of dancing.) the dancing is a folk dance, but fairly
> easy to learn. we would dance behind a row until we got the hang of it,
> and then people would open the row up to let us in. (the dances are done
> in rows, sort of like a line dance, but mostly sort of not like one.) it
> was exhilarating and wonderful fun. i recommend it to anyone. besides,
> brittany is where carnac, st. malo, and mont st. michael are-- all
> world-class sites -- and quimper pottery. there are dances like this all
> over brittany, and since they are local, not tourist, they might take place
> on any night of the week.
>
> tell them to enjoy. i can't wait to get back.
>
> bill mccarthy
> penn state
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the baltimore folk music society recently bought a fender passport p-150
for our ecd. we have been thoroughly satisfied with it, although it
won't be adequate for all uses. while it will equalize and the various
channels are independently adjustable, it is a more modest system than
the recent posting was looking for. however, it is also greatly more
modest in price, and groups might wish to consider it.
the passport p-150 weights about 26-28 pounds and is very easy to set
up--about as complex as a home stereo, which means that i can set it up.
its limitation is that it can only serve a caller and two other mics.
however, this has worked well for us. indeed, we generally use it just
for the caller. it also has jacks for a cd player and other stuff i'm
such a novice, i'm not sure what else would plug in--which is just the
point: i can carry it downstairs, set it up in a few minutes, and we're
ready to dance.
the cost is between $500-600 (we received a discount, and i don't
remember the exact price). there is a somewhat larger and heavier unit
that takes four mics, but we didn't like it as well.
there are at least three other people on this list who have used this.
perhaps they would like to comment.
mike franch
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list. i don't know what the chances are that it will send it to you but just
in case...
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saturday may 12, 2001 will be the hartford ball. larry wallach and friends providing the music.it's scary to be planing a year and more in advance! helen davenport
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help! sharon, et al! having completed our 13th annual fried-for-all weekend
we need to think immediately about scheduling the next one. (no rest for the
weary.) i know next year's april calendar won't be so forgiving, which leaves
may & (as a last resort) june. please e-mail me offlist (unless you consider
the info of general interest) if you're aware of any english dance events
planned for the geographical area which extends from slightly south of nyc or
even philadelphia (from which we got some lovely dancers this year)
throughout greater new england.
thanks! (& thanks to you beautiful dancers & mgm for making the weekend the
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saturday may 12, 2001 will be the hartford ball. larry wallach and friends providing the music.it's scary to be planing a year and more in advance! helen davenport
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help! sharon, et al! having completed our 13th annual fried-for-all weekend we need to think immediately about scheduling the next one. (no rest for the weary.) i know next year's april calendar won't be so forgiving, which leaves may & (as a last resort) june. please e-mail me offlist (unless you consider the info of general interest) if you're aware of any english dance events planned for the geographical area which extends from slightly south of nyc or even philadelphia (from which we got some lovely dancers this year) throughout greater new england.thanks! (& thanks to you beautiful dancers & mgm for making the weekend the best ever!!!!)judy g.do you yahoo!?
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saturday may 12, 2001 will be the hartford ball. larry wallach and friends providing the music.it's scary to be planing a year and more in advance! helen davenport
jbgrun-at-
aol.com wrote:
help! sharon, et al! having completed our 13th annual fried-for-all weekend
we need to think immediately about scheduling the next one. (no rest for the
weary.) i know next year's april calendar won't be so forgiving, which leaves
may & (as a last resort) june. please e-mail me offlist (unless you consider
the info of general interest) if you're aware of any english dance events
planned for the geographical area which extends from slightly south of nyc or
even philadelphia (from which we got some lovely dancers this year)
throughout greater new england.
thanks! (& thanks to you beautiful dancers & mgm for making the weekend the
best ever!!!!)
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saturday may 12, 2001 will be the hartford ball. larry wallach and friends providing the music.it's scary to be planing a year and more in advance! helen davenport
jbgrun-at-
aol.com wrote:
help! sharon, et al! having completed our 13th annual fried-for-all weekend we need to think immediately about scheduling the next one. (no rest for the weary.) i know next year's april calendar won't be so forgiving, which leaves may & (as a last resort) june. please e-mail me offlist (unless you consider the info of general interest) if you're aware of any english dance events planned for the geographical area which extends from slightly south of nyc or even philadelphia (from which we got some lovely dancers this year) throughout greater new england.thanks! (& thanks to you beautiful dancers & mgm for making the weekend the best ever!!!!)judy g.do you yahoo!?
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in a message dated 5/4/00 3:41:07 pm, dancerhiker-at-
yahoo.com writes:
>
thanks helen, sharon let me know already.
j.
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date: thu, 04 may 2000 19:14:19 -0400
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a reminder to any event announcers from one who is geographically
impaired--when announcing an upcoming gala, could you please be sure you
include 1) date of event 2) city 3) state and 4) (perhaps) region
(defined as within reasonable driving distance)?
i know i should know where some cities are, but i don't. i'm still
coping with the change of year from 1999 to 2000, too.
not to mention month.
allison
p.s. sometimes day is iffy, too.
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from: andrew peterson
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--- allison m thompson wrote:
> a reminder to any event announcers from one who is
> geographically
> impaired--when announcing an upcoming gala, could you please
> be sure you
> include 1) date of event 2) city 3) state and 4) (perhaps)
> region
> (defined as within reasonable driving distance)?
>
i agree with wanting to know the city and state. i see flyers on
the table at dances that give no clue at all to the location
other than the name of the hall. considering that flyers at
portland dances can come from anywhere between san francisco (10
hours south) and seattle (3 1/2 to 5 hours north depending on
i-5 traffic) and points up to 3500 miles east, neglecting to put
a city on the flyer is not going to draw my attention very far.
what do you consider "reasonable" distance?? i used to drive
froom hartford to boston or new york for an evening of dancing.
i've driven from there to washington dc for a weekend. some
people don't want to drive to the other side of the city if the
regular weekly dance venue changes.
>
> p.s. sometimes day is iffy, too.
>
"today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday." unknown
...so just enjoy it.
andy in portland or
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archive-date: thu, 04 may 2000 22:35:27 pst
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date: fri, 05 may 2000 00:34:33 -0500
from: dianna shipman
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references:
i'd also add that web pages should show complete geographical location -
amazing how many web pages just give a street address and you don't have a
clue where on the globe they are. here i've been trying to encouraging
coordinating with surrounding states and also with other areas that dancers
here interact with - if it's a fun enough event we can fly! (especially if
you catch an airline special) - some conflicts are inevitable - but
minimizing those seems like a good idea.
dianna l. shipman
diannashipman-at-
worldnet.att.net
pmb 134, 1436 w. gray
houston, tx 77019-4946
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web page: http://home.att.net/~diannashipman
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----- original message -----
from: "andrew peterson"
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sent: thursday, may 04, 2000 11:09 pm
subject: re: general plea to list for geographical & temporal details
> --- allison m thompson wrote:
> > a reminder to any event announcers from one who is
> > geographically
> > impaired--when announcing an upcoming gala, could you please
> > be sure you
> > include 1) date of event 2) city 3) state and 4) (perhaps)
> > region
> > (defined as within reasonable driving distance)?
> >
> i agree with wanting to know the city and state. i see flyers on
> the table at dances that give no clue at all to the location
> other than the name of the hall. considering that flyers at
> portland dances can come from anywhere between san francisco (10
> hours south) and seattle (3 1/2 to 5 hours north depending on
> i-5 traffic) and points up to 3500 miles east, neglecting to put
> a city on the flyer is not going to draw my attention very far.
>
> what do you consider "reasonable" distance?? i used to drive
> froom hartford to boston or new york for an evening of dancing.
> i've driven from there to washington dc for a weekend. some
> people don't want to drive to the other side of the city if the
> regular weekly dance venue changes.
>
> >
> > p.s. sometimes day is iffy, too.
> >
>
> "today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday." unknown
>
> ...so just enjoy it.
>
> andy in portland or
>
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archive-date: fri, 05 may 2000 01:00:07 pst
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date: thu, 04 may 2000 22:51:11 +0200
from: m sheffield
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at 01:38 02.05.00 -0500, you wrote:
>hi folks:
>
>two friends of mine are going ...
for scottish and some english, check my web site below.
for french, i'll pass you request on to the local folk list and for ward
any replies.
it would have been useful to know where in france they were going and when.
martin,
in grenoble, france.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/scots.in.france/scd.htm
(dance groups, some new dances ...)
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archive-date: fri, 05 may 2000 03:19:02 pst
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date: fri, 05 may 2000 12:18:25 +0200 (cest)
from: tom goodale
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country might be useful too 8-)
tom
on thu, 4 may 2000, allison m thompson wrote:
> a reminder to any event announcers from one who is geographically
> impaired--when announcing an upcoming gala, could you please be sure you
> include 1) date of event 2) city 3) state and 4) (perhaps) region
> (defined as within reasonable driving distance)?
>
> i know i should know where some cities are, but i don't. i'm still
> coping with the change of year from 1999 to 2000, too.
>
> not to mention month.
>
> allison
>
> p.s. sometimes day is iffy, too.
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archive-date: fri, 05 may 2000 10:03:39 pst
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date: fri, 05 may 2000 13:03:08 -0400 (edt)
from: christine robb
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this was extracted from a post to an irish dance list in response to the
dance day message, but i thought it might be of interest to some people.
at least those who can still access their mail...
christine
for information on english country dancing in toronto, canada :
http://www.interlog.com/~cedar
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in germany and many other european countries the april, 30 is in fact the
most important dancing event of the whole year. it is an very old custom,
to dance through this night. (in old days this night was called the
walpurgis night, and some believed the witches were flying to a certain
mountain to dance with the devil himself.) at least one dances longer
than midnight and that's how it is called "tanz in den mai" (dance in[to]
may). everybody is free to do so, because next day is a holiday (1st
may).
greetings
roland
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date: fri, 05 may 2000 14:16:33 -0300
from: john wood
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hi, folks:
i have just received a marvellous cd recording by the pemberley
players of pride and prejudice dance music.
being an aficionado of ecd i have "the words" for all of the dances
except "sprigs of laurel" [cahusac, 1790?] with which i am not
familiar.
does anybody have the notation which could be sent directly to me? it
would be much appreciated.
regards, john
bedford, nova scotia
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from: marian phillips
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christine robb forwards a message that says in part:
>>(in old days this night was called the walpurgis night, and some believed
the witches were flying to a certain
mountain to dance with the devil himself.)hi, folks:
>
>i have just received a marvellous cd recording by the pemberley
>players of pride and prejudice dance music.
>
>being an aficionado of ecd i have "the words" for all of the dances
>except "sprigs of laurel" [cahusac, 1790?] with which i am not
>familiar.
>
>does anybody have the notation which could be sent directly to me? it
>would be much appreciated.
>
>regards, john
>bedford, nova scotia
>
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date: fri, 05 may 2000 16:18:54 -0300
from: john wood
subject: re: sprigs of laurel [cahusac] [2]
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references:
thank you, sharon:
your help is much appreciated.
kind regards, john
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archive-date: fri, 05 may 2000 18:00:14 pst
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date: fri, 05 may 2000 17:59:45 -0700
from: south bay english country dance
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good day
if anyone from south-east michigan on this list (i know there are a few of
you) is willing to answer a few questions re: ann arbor and living in it,
please reply to me off-list at sbecd-at-
geocities.com.
thank you.
giovanni de amici
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archive-date: sat, 06 may 2000 07:48:22 pst
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date: sat, 06 may 2000 10:48:52 -0400
from: "roger w. broseus"
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fellow ecders:
many folks come to the dc area to tour during the summer months. don't
forget that we've also got great english country dancing in dc, every
wednesday evening at 8:00 in the glen echo town hall. get info at
www.just.net/~roger/events.html
there are many other english, contra, etc., dances in our area: one can be
a dance gypsy without leaving the greater dc/metro area. links to such
venues may be found at
www.just.net/~roger/dance_niche.html as well as at the folklore society's
web site, www.fsgw.org.
it's never too late to register for the washington spring ball: may
20th. info, including registration forms, directions to practice session,
etc., are at
www.just.net/~roger/spngball.htm
cheers,
roger w. broseus
registrar, washington spring ball
roger-at-
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h: 301-365-0611
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archive-date: sat, 06 may 2000 13:02:09 pst
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date: sat, 06 may 2000 16:01:34 -0400 (edt)
from: joanne rawls
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roger broseus writes:
>fellow ecders:
>
>many folks come to the dc area to tour during the summer months. don't
>forget that we've also got great english country dancing in dc, every
>wednesday evening at 8:00 in the glen echo town hall.
let me springboard off roger's message to invite you to extend your tour
south to the colonial capitol of virginia--williamsburg. it's only a three
hour drive from the dc area...why not tour williamsburg as well, and dance
with us any tuesday night at newport house, 710 south henry street. the
williamsburg heritage dancers meet from 8-10 p.m. in the second floor
ballroom (built from an 18th century design, with sconses on the walls and a
beautiful parquet floor). we welcome visitors at all levels, from absolute
beginners to experienced dance gypsies. we'd love to meet and dance with
fellow ecd list members!
joanne rawls, president
williamsburg heritage dancers
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archive-date: mon, 08 may 2000 04:57:48 pst
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from: lyrl ahern
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--- allison m thompson wrote:
> a reminder to any event announcers from one who is
> geographically impaired--when announcing an upcoming
gala,
> could you please be sure you include 1) date of event 2)
> city 3) state and 4) (perhaps) region (defined as within
> reasonable driving distance)?
--- dianna shipman wrote:
> i'd also add that web pages should show complete
> geographical location....here i've been trying to
> encourage coordinating with surrounding states and also
> with other areas that dancers here interact with - if
it's a fun enough event we can fly!....
along those lines, might i also make a plea for
notification of events with a little more lead time? it
doesn't help to know about an event in a city several hours
away only a week before it happens, which occured
recently--when one could have planned the weekend around
the dance if one had only known in time.
as editor of the boston centre's quarterly newsletter, i
have a 3- (or 4-) month lead time. i recently added a new
column, "special events (for those who travel)." in that i
list brief teasers of events that i pull off the ecd list,
mostly just name and date of weekend or ball with an info
contact. i feel disappointed when something appears on the
list, right after i finish the issue, that i would have
liked to include. i am currently working on the summer
issue.
--lyrl ahern
cds boston (ma) centre
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archive-date: mon, 08 may 2000 14:09:30 pst
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date: mon, 08 may 2000 16:02:53 -0500
from: dianna shipman
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subject: re: dance the summer away in washington, dc; spring ball, may 20
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roger - - you have a great web page; however following up on some of the
prior postings, it takes some reading to discover if it's about washington,
dc or the state of washington - thanks for all the great info - i had fun
trying out some of your links.
dianna
dianna l. shipman
diannashipman-at-
worldnet.att.net
pmb 134, 1436 w. gray
houston, tx 77019-4946
scottish country dancing and more
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phone: 713-522-1212
----- original message -----
from: "roger w. broseus"
to: "ecd listserv - posts"
sent: saturday, may 06, 2000 9:48 am
subject: dance the summer away in washington, dc; spring ball, may 20
> fellow ecders:
>
> many folks come to the dc area to tour during the summer months. don't
> forget that we've also got great english country dancing in dc, every
> wednesday evening at 8:00 in the glen echo town hall. get info at
> www.just.net/~roger/events.html
>
> there are many other english, contra, etc., dances in our area: one can be
> a dance gypsy without leaving the greater dc/metro area. links to such
> venues may be found at
> www.just.net/~roger/dance_niche.html as well as at the folklore society's
> web site, www.fsgw.org.
>
> it's never too late to register for the washington spring ball: may
> 20th. info, including registration forms, directions to practice session,
> etc., are at
> www.just.net/~roger/spngball.htm
>
> cheers,
>
> roger w. broseus
> registrar, washington spring ball
> roger-at-
just.net
> h: 301-365-0611
>
> ball info at: www.just.net/~roger/spngball.htm
>
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archive-date: tue, 09 may 2000 09:18:16 pst
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date: tue, 09 may 2000 12:17:16 -0400
from: sol weber
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subject: cape may, nj dancefest, may 12-13 contras, english, etc
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re the cape may, nj "victoria's revenge dancefest", may 12-13,
there are, amazingly, still openings for couples and single women
and men. the locale is the wonderfully picturesque little gingerbready
cape may, at the southern tip of new jersey. while the dancing is
mostly contras, there also are some sessions in english dance (taught
by brad sayler), waltzes, family dance, etc, plus singing, a gazebo
picnic lunch to live music, and plenty of time to stroll thru the
charming
town or walk on the beach. the main dance is at the convention hall,
jutting out into the ocean; it's always great to cool off by stepping out
to
admire the surf, and there will be a close-to-full moon! it's accessible
by car and bus, and even by ferry, from lewes, delaware. time is short,
so if you're interested, sign up by calling or e-mailing right away, to
202-543-4999, aircarl-at-
cpcug.org for housing, in a nice private home
near the beach (with full kitchen, etc) contact me, asap. thanks. sol
+++++sol "roundman" weber --- "so many rounds, so little time"
+++++25-14 37th st, astoria, ny 11103; 718-278-4389 (after 11am)
++singers and musicians, contact me for info on books, albums, and
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date: tue, 09 may 2000 12:37:13 -0700
from: marian phillips
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sol weber writes:
>>still openings for couples and single women and men. fred ward from england is trying to locate a dance called "jfk" in
> improper contra or sicilian circle formation. it's not in any of my
> indexes--anybody else know of it?
>
i had a dance called jfk in my repertoire but later learned that it was
really flk or to be precise, flk mixer by frank l. kaltman and it can be
found in zesty contras.
antony heywood
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archive-date: mon, 15 may 2000 17:21:07 pst
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date: mon, 15 may 2000 17:20:28 -0700 (pdt)
from: alan winston - ssrl central computing
subject: some spaces left (for couples and men) at mendocino english week
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ecders --
the original postmark lottery date has passed, and there are still some spaces
left for mendocino english dance week, july 8 - 15 of this year at the
mendocino woodlands camp in mendocino, california, sponsored by the bay area
country dance society. (this is unusual; the camp has been oversubscribed
in each of the last several years.)
the program includes ecd classes with brad foster, sue dupre, and
bruce hamilton, as well as longsword with sue, morris dancing with brad,
adapting/interpreting a tradition so that it fits your team with tom seiss
(who'll also do organizational classes on effective governing boards and
long range planning and will lead singing as well. kyla brooke will lead
a class on body movement and use - that is, among other things, how to keep
dancing longer with fewer injuries - and daily warmups.
music by footloose (pete campell, andrea hoag, david digiuseppe,
jonah blaustein) and the multitraditionally-talented shira kammen,
charlie hancock, and jim oakden. after-hours dance parties may include
scandinavian, balkan, or swing music.
this camp in the beautiful coastal redwood forest has been the home of many
magical experiences. i go every year - i hope that doesn't scare anybody away
- and will be there this time.
the camp has a somewhat relaxed gender-balance policy, but at present has
several single women on the waiting list. single men who sign up will allow
the waitlisted women to get into camp; couples will help the ratio as well.
for more information, including a registration form:
web page
or write to the camp manager, jane wilson, at jwilson-at-
jurika.com
or call jane at 510/793-6545
this should be a wonderful week. don't miss out.
-- alan
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archive-date: mon, 15 may 2000 21:01:56 pst
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date: tue, 16 may 2000 00:03:39 -0400
from: sharon green
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subject: re: some spaces left (for couples and men) at mendocino english week
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david & i are missing mendocino week this year because the lure of bacds
family week with the grandchild was too great to resist. however, i wanted
to second alan's words in praise of the camp and staff. brad and sue and
bruce are three of our favorite teachers, and if sue had been scheduled to
teach molly dancing, possibly not even the charms of the grandchild would
have prevailed (especially after brad's splendid style workshop in
philadelphia the other weekend). worth the trip!
cheers,
sharon
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archive-date: wed, 17 may 2000 07:24:12 pst
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date: wed, 17 may 2000 10:23:30 -0400 (edt)
from: "stephen d. corrsin"
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subject: traditional dance nos. 5/6
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hello comrades. does anyone have a copy of the journal "traditional dance,"
vol. 5/6 (1988 or thereabouts)? i'm interested in the article by c.m.
sughrue on the theme of "traditional vs revival." will pay costs to get the
thing, fax would be fine.
thanks in advance
steve c.
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archive-date: wed, 17 may 2000 13:04:43 pst
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date: wed, 17 may 2000 16:04:17 -0400
from: michael bergman
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subject: dance, boston area, tuesday, may 23rd
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on tuesday, may 23rd, as the last of the 4th tuesday renaissance
dances in cambridge, ma, we'll be taking a closer look at the 'old
measures' from the 16th c. 'inns at court' ms. these dances, also
known as almayns, almans, or almains, are peculiarly english, at
least in surviving sources, except for a couple of tantalizing
comments in arbeau's orchesography, which, along with the name, hint
at a german origin.
contemporary with early references to ecd, some feel that these
dances may have influenced the development of ecd, while others feel
that they were influenced *by* ecd. either way, there are some
intriguing resemblances.
we'll also be doing other 16th c. dances, from arbeau, and some
italian dance. these dances would also have been danced in england
in the 16th century, though they are not english in origin, to the
best of our limited knowledge.
the dance takes place at the old cambridge baptist church, 1151 mass
ave, from 7:30 to 10:00 (please arrive a little earlier). all dances
will be taught; partners or previous experience are not required.
refreshments will be served. free parking in the lot next to the
church, or easy walking distance from the harvard square t stop.
call (617) 964-7684 or write eclectic-at-
mit.edu if you need more
information.
at this time of year, as a special treat, we get to fully enjoy the
beautiful stained glass in the church, as the sun will still be up
when the dance starts.
the dance will be led by meredith courtney; the music will be
performed by sheila beardslee.
this series of dances is co-sponsored by eclectic enterprises and the
cds boston centre.
--mike bergman
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archive-date: wed, 17 may 2000 13:23:59 pst
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date: wed, 17 may 2000 15:20:36 -0500
from: paul stamler
subject: last reminder -- st. louis playford ball
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hi folks:
last reminder -- the st. louis playford ball is this saturday, may 20th,
8-11pm at the monday club in webster groves. admission is $15.00; fancy
dress (your definition) is encouraged, and participants are also encouraged
to bring snacks. all dances will be walked through. for more information or
directions, call 314-664-9207 or e-mail:
pstamler-at-
atdial.net
peace.
paul stamler
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archive-date: wed, 17 may 2000 16:38:29 pst
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date: wed, 17 may 2000 19:53:43 -0400
from: stephanie smith
subject: last reminder for the washington (dc) spring ball
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ecders,
if you're on the east coast and are *not* rushing off to st. louis this weekend
for their ball, it's not too late to register for the washington spring ball
occurring this saturday, may 20th, at the whitby gymnasium, national cathedral
school in washington, dc. we love to have folks from out of town join us. for
program, other details and registration forms, see:
www.just.net/~roger/spngball.htm
you can contact either roger broseus (roger-at-
just.net) or me (steph-at-
boo.net) if
you need info or want to sign up.
stephanie smith
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archive-date: thu, 18 may 2000 07:44:42 pst
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date: thu, 18 may 2000 10:43:55 -0400 (edt)
from: tideswell-at-
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i don't have orly krasner's email address, so i'm going to embarrass her with
public praise. last night at the arlington dance we did her new dance, mm,
and it was a pure delight. lively, interesting, fun, and lots of "flow".
i'd dance it again in a hot second.
and set to a lovely tune by leslie lasseter, i might add.
keep up the good work, girls. more, more!
nilos
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archive-date: thu, 18 may 2000 08:42:15 pst
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date: thu, 18 may 2000 08:41:36 -0700 (pdt)
from: orly krasner
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thanks, nilos! you sure know how to make a person's day.
actually, the real name of the dance is millenium morn, mm for short.
there are two puns here; it refers to the m&ms "time capsule" we filled at
the westchester new year's eve dance and to the dance's (golden?) arches.
the dance came about this way: leslie and i stayed over at the murrow's
home after the westchester dance so we could all drive to boston for their
dance. leslie wrote the tune over breakfast, handed it to gene who
pronounced it "a keeper." gene then handed it to me. i think he figured he
could keep me quiet on the long car ride if i had a dance to write. . . .
--orly.
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archive-date: thu, 18 may 2000 08:53:55 pst
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date: thu, 18 may 2000 11:55:20 -0400
from: sharon green
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if you want to dance it again, i believe orly will be calling it at country
dance*new york's new voices night on tuesday, may 30. [metropolitan duane
church, 201 w.13th street, new york ny]. portland's nan evans will be in
town that night, so we'll have the pleasure of her calling as well.
hugs,
sharon
p.s. my guess at orly's response: "you can embarrass me like this *any*
time!" (~:
at 10:43 am 5/18/00 -0400, tideswell-at-
aol.com wrote:
>i don't have orly krasner's email address, so i'm going to embarrass her with
>public praise. last night at the arlington dance we did her new dance, mm,
>and it was a pure delight. lively, interesting, fun, and lots of "flow".
>i'd dance it again in a hot second.
>
>and set to a lovely tune by leslie lasseter, i might add.
>
>keep up the good work, girls. more, more!
>
>nilos
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archive-date: thu, 18 may 2000 09:09:33 pst
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date: thu, 18 may 2000 12:06:28 -0400
from: jane peppler
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subject: 17th-18th cent history list - scd list
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hello,
on behalf of a friend who is researching 17th-18th century english and
scottish country dance:
1. is there a mailing list like this one for scottish country dance?
2. are there mailing lists for history buffs? allan is in particular
looking for experts in london culture etc. of the 17th and 18th century.
either addresses for such resource lists or other suggestions for where
to look on-line (or friendly profs) would be most appreciated!
thanks,
jane peppler
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archive-date: thu, 18 may 2000 09:52:40 pst
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date: thu, 18 may 2000 09:52:00 -0700 (pdt)
from: barbara ruth
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subject: nomad is coming.
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the date for this fall's nomad festival will be nov. 10-12. the
performer application was supposed to have been up on our website by
now, but alas real life has intervened, so if there are any callers
who are interested in doing a session, who haven't received an
application via snail mail, you may get one by contacting marc
horowitz at 203-248-0291 or email nomadgrid-at-
aol.com.
given the image problems of ecd that have been discussed on this list
and our need for outreach, i would like to especially encourage
people to think about designing sessions to appeal to beginners and
to those who might not already be predisposed to pick english
dancing.
incidently, our new, improved url is
http://www.geocities.com/nomadfest.
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archive-date: thu, 18 may 2000 09:55:06 pst
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date: thu, 18 may 2000 18:28:46 +0200
from: m sheffield
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jane p wrote:
>
>1. is there a mailing list like this one for scottish country dance?
>
how about "strathspey" ?
subscription/unsubscription/info requests should be directed to
< strathspey-request-at-
tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de >
just send a message with the word `subscribe' in the `subject:' header
to subscribe to the list.*
articles to be submitted should be sent to
strathspey-at-
tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
url for archives (and much else):
< http://www.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/strathspey/ >
x
martin,
in grenoble, france.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/scots.in.france/scd.htm
(dance groups, some new dances ...)
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archive-date: thu, 18 may 2000 11:09:55 pst
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date: thu, 18 may 2000 11:09:14 -0700 (pdt)
from: alan winston - ssrl central computing
subject: re: 17th-18th cent history list - scd list
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jane wrote:
>1. is there a mailing list like this one for scottish country dance?
answered elsewhere.
>2. are there mailing lists for history buffs? allan is in particular
>looking for experts in london culture etc. of the 17th and 18th century.
(a) if the questions are dance-related, ask here. there are some quite
knowledgeable people on this list.
(b) not a direct answer, but i do want to recommend a website called
"the republic of pemberley", www.pemberley.com. it's specifically a
haven for jane austen fans, so we're looking at the end of the 18th century
and start of the 19th, but it's a swell site and also has some knowledgeable
people.
-- alan
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archive-date: thu, 18 may 2000 12:05:42 pst
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date: thu, 18 may 2000 15:04:57 -0400 (edt)
from: wolfelinda-at-
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dear stephanie: i am coming down to the dc ball. but need to know this:
what time does the ball end? best, linda
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date: thu, 18 may 2000 15:28:36 -0400
from: stephanie smith
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there is no fixed end time, but i would think we'd be finished by 11 or so.
i think we have to be out of the hall at midnight.
stephanie
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> dear stephanie: i am coming down to the dc ball. but need to know this:
> what time does the ball end? best, linda
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>given the image problems of ecd that have been discussed on this list
>and our need for outreach, i would like to especially encourage
>people to think about designing sessions to appeal to beginners and
>to those who might not already be predisposed to pick english
>dancing.
*** we have the same experience in fairfield, iowa. neophytes
often drop in at our friday evening dances, only to be
"thrown in" head first, without a clue as to what "set
and turn single" is..most hang on until they get the hang
of it (takes a few weeks), but some do get overwhelmed.
we have a "workshop" session in the planning...
phil
phil d'agostino
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i wanted to point out that lubrano (music and dance antiquarians, great
barringtonn, mass.) sells a copy of:
" thompson's compleat collection of 200 favourite country dances
performed at court, bath, tunbridge & all public assemblies with proper
figures or directions to each tune, set for the violin, german flute, &
hautboy... vol. [iii]
price: $825.00 (this is dollars, not belgian franks).
they have a website for those want to spend a bit of money ...:
http://bookmarque.net/lubrano/
philippe callens
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from: john wood
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hi folks:
this web site only concerns a small area and not for world-wide
consumption!
however, hopefully many people will visit and eventually turn up
physically at some of the classes!
"http://www.homestead.com/theplayforddancers/index_4.html"
cheers, john
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hi folks:
this web site only concerns a small area and not for world-wide consumption!
however, hopefully many people will visit and eventually turn up
physically at some of the classes!
"http://www.homestead.com/theplayforddancers/index_4.html"
cheers, john
bedford, nova scotia
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for something i'm writing, i'd like to be able to mention someyjomh about the
dances that were being done in america in the period from 1810-1830. i don't
mean contra dances, but the kinds of dances that were taught by the many
dancing masters whose advertisements i've seen in early 19th century
newspapers, and the kinds of dances that were done at "cotillion parties."
i've seen a picture of such a party from 1819 -- the dancers look as if
they're doing english (not contra) dances. anyone know anything about this
period, or know of some books i might consult? thanks, linda wolfe
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from: alan winston - ssrl central computing
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linda wolfe wrote:
for something i'm writing, i'd like to be able to mention someyjomh about the
dances that were being done in america in the period from 1810-1830. i don't
mean contra dances, but the kinds of dances that were taught by the many
dancing masters whose advertisements i've seen in early 19th century
newspapers, and the kinds of dances that were done at "cotillion parties."
i've seen a picture of such a party from 1819 -- the dancers look as if
they're doing english (not contra) dances. anyone know anything about this
period, or know of some books i might consult? thanks, linda wolfe
in 1810-1830, i think it was still all country dancing, that you'd have
real trouble telling the difference between english and contra just by looking.
[modern contra dance style is pretty recent, historically; stuff like the
wrist-grip star seems to have come in in the 1940s. i don't know when ballroom
swing starts in contra, but i have one source that says it didn't enter square
dancing until c. 1900.]
it's a little late for cotillions (square dances with standard figures and
distinctive breaks, seen in morrison and keller&sweet); quadrilles are supposed
to be big in 1819. [and there's at least one us-published quadrille book by
1805.] i thought it was early for cotillons (or "the german"),
which are basically party games revolving around partner selection (or
conspicuous partner rejection - some of the figures are pretty obnoxious);
they're in dance manuals from 1900, but i don't see them in 1865, even. of
course, "cotillion party" doesn't necessarily mean they're dancing cotillions.
oh, what part of america? we weren't even as culturally homogenous then as
we are now. what social class? there are different dance repertoires depending
on class. (not a lot of buck-dancing or solo jigs in the upper classes, for
example.)
-- alan
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archive-date: fri, 19 may 2000 13:28:43 pst
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date: fri, 19 may 2000 16:27:48 -0400
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linda: try http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/dihtml/dihome.html, the library of
congress' collection of dance instruction manuals. this'll keep you browsing for
awhile. don't be mis-led by the opening page: the collection is not limited to
ballroom dancing: there are all sorts of dance manuals there, including scanned
images of old manuals as well as transcriptions of the text.
happy surfing . . . and dancing at the washington spring ball
(www.just.net/~roger/sprngball.html).
/roger
wolfelinda-at-
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> for something i'm writing, i'd like to be able to mention someyjomh about the
> dances that were being done in america in the period from 1810-1830. i don't
> mean contra dances, but the kinds of dances that were taught by the many
> dancing masters whose advertisements i've seen in early 19th century
> newspapers, and the kinds of dances that were done at "cotillion parties."
> i've seen a picture of such a party from 1819 -- the dancers look as if
> they're doing english (not contra) dances. anyone know anything about this
> period, or know of some books i might consult? thanks, linda wolfe
-- roger w. broseus
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dear alan:
thanks for the reply. the social class is middle to upper. the area:
philadelphia and new england. you're right that "cotillion party" probably
doesn't mean same thing as cotillion came to mean. in fact probably the
dance, cotillion ("square dances with standard figures and distinctive
breaks"), derived from fact that the upper classes were having cotillion
parties back in 1819.
can you recommend a quadrille book? and do you know the name of the 1805
quadrille book? best, linda
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dear roger:
hey, that's the best tip yet! will check it out after i get home from the dc
ball. see you there, linda
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> linda wolfe wrote:
>
> for something i'm writing, i'd like to be able to mention
> someyjomh about the
> dances that were being done in america in the period from
> 1810-1830. i don't
> mean contra dances, but the kinds of dances that were taught
> by the many
> dancing masters whose advertisements i've seen in early 19th
> century
> newspapers, and the kinds of dances that were done at
> "cotillion parties."
> i've seen a picture of such a party from 1819 -- the dancers
> look as if
> they're doing english (not contra) dances. anyone know
> anything about this
> period, or know of some books i might consult? thanks,
> linda wolfe
>
i would suggest directing your question to richard powers.
his e-mail address is on the biography page.
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archive-date: fri, 19 may 2000 19:28:03 pst
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dear andrew:
thanks for telling me about richard powers. i'll get in touch with him.
best, linda
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archive-date: fri, 19 may 2000 22:36:03 pst
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hi folks,
a member of the seattle ecd community is going to be in the czech republic
sometime in the next few months, and wonders if there is any english
country dancing he can attend while he is there. does anybody know of any?
victoria
check out our web site, at http://www.oz.net/~bestockp/
read about our trip to the rockies.....
see the portfolio from northwest new year's camp.....
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hello friends,
for the printed program for nonesuch's performance next week, i am looking
for the following information
author and date for these dances:
trip to hexham
wibsey roundabout
and the date for colin hume's dunant house waltz
thanks for your help.
victoria bestock
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archive-date: sat, 20 may 2000 18:32:28 pst
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>and the date for colin hume's dunant house waltz
1992 - dutch crossing
emily l. ferguson
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archive-date: sat, 20 may 2000 18:50:02 pst
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on sat, 20 may 2000, paul/victoria bestock wrote:
> hello friends,
>
> for the printed program for nonesuch's performance next week, i am looking
> for the following information
>
> author and date for these dances:
>
> trip to hexham
charles bolton, 1991, published in "people and places."
> wibsey roundabout
gary roodman, 1993, published in cdss news #117 (mar/apr 1994) and "sum
further calculated figures," 1996.
eric arnold
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at 04:45 pm 5/20/00 -0700, you wrote:
>for the printed program for nonesuch's performance next week, i am looking
>for the following information
>
>author and date for these dances:
>
>trip to hexham charles bolton written in1991
>wibsey roundabout gary roodman published in 1996
>
>and the date for colin hume's dunant house waltz
december 1991 at the christmas course at zeist
lovely dances all--should be a beautiful suite.
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if you are attending folklife, or are anywhere near seattle next weekend,
nonesuch is performing a program of english country dance friday evening,
7:40-8:10 at the flag pavillion east in the seattle center. the program
features many dances by contemporary dance masters. please come see us.
thanks eric, sharon, emily and pamela for the same-day replies to my query
so that i could get correct info into the program. its great to have this
list as a resource!
victoria
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archive-date: sun, 21 may 2000 19:43:12 pst
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hi: i will be going away for almost a month in about two weeks time. i have had
no trouble "unsubscribing" to strahspey-but the last time i tried to
unsubscribe to this list it just wouldn't work. frankly i don't want to face 4
to 600 messages when i return. how do i "unsubscribe" to the ecd list?
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english scottish session is apparently a few dancers shy of a full camp, and
the organizers have asked me to pass this on.
i can personally vouch for what a fun session it is, and it's a great
opportunity to dip your toe into scottish without going the full
point-your-foot-at-a-47.62%-angle-from-your-partner's-off-knee route.
(and for those of you who will be at 4th of july weekend it's a good excuse
not to go home)
>have you always wanted to get to pinewoods, but never found an opening.
>many weeks fill up quickly, but there is still room in english-scottish
>session, july 3 through 7 this year. this is a wonderfully relaxed time
>to
>be in camp, with stress--reduced classes in english & scottish country
>dancing, english ritual & scottish step dancing. there are many wonderful
>parties planned, and there will not be long queues for the showers or the
>dining hall. we guarantee a friendly atmosphere, afternoon tea every day,
>and lots of dancing. check out our web page at
>www.geocities.com/soho/courtyard/8534
> to see the listing of
>popular teachers, wonderful musicians and the daily schedule. there is
>an
>application there also -- we try to make it easy. please come!
>
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date: mon, 22 may 2000 01:37:23 -0400
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a workshop in 17th c. ecd as described in 1685 by andre lorin, taught
by dr. julia sutton, assisted by ken pierce and barbara finney.
music by john tyson and friends.
this is a lecture/demonstration/workshop on the material presented in
lorin's ms. andre lorin was the first person to write a detailed
manual on ecd, specify french dance steps throughout the dances, and
to diagram the figures for ecd, though he did not describe the steps,
and his material was adapted to the tastes of the french court, not a
description of the dances as actually done in england. as such, his
material is of interest both to those interested in ecd and those
interested in french contredanse.
dr. sutton will talk about lorin's manuscript--its oddities, its
significance, its influence, and what it may or may not be telling us
about ecd as done in england at that time.
ken pierce and barbara finney will demonstrate the steps specified
for "christchurch bells," a group of ken's students will then show us
the whole dance.
we will dance lorin's version of "christchurch bells" (with walking
steps) and compare it to playford's. we will then try it with steps
as well. how far we get with the baroque steps will depend on how
much experience the attendees have -- this is intended as an advanced
class; previous experience with some sort of performance dance, or
baroque dance steps, is recommended.
dr. julia sutton is a world-renowned dance historian who lives here
in the boston area. she has been an avid folk dancer from the age of
10, and a long-time member of cds-boston, and of fac.
ken pierce teaches baroque and renaissance dance at longy school of
music. barbara finney is a local ecd dance teacher and leader, and long-time
member of the boston centre. a demonstration group of ken's students will
show us the whole dance, as well.
music will be by john tyson and friends. join us at 8:00 pm for an
interesting evening. for more information, contact mike bergman,
organizer, at (617) 964-7684 or eclectic-at-
mit.edu.
admission is $10; $8 for members of cds-bc or fac, and $5 for
students and seniors.
the workshop will be held at the old cambridge baptist church, 1151
mass ave, near harvard square, cambridge, ma, usa. the church has a
parking lot available for our use, to the east of the church, and is
also quite convenient to the harvard square station of the red line.
the workshop begins at 8:00 (please come a little earlier) and is
expected to last about 2 hours.
the workshop is sponsored by the country dance society - boston
centre, and the folk arts center of new england.
those planning on attending longy school of music's renaissance &
baroque dance week should note that this workshop takes place the
same week, scheduled so as not to conflict with the longy classes.
--mike bergman
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paul/victoria bestock wrote:
> hi folks,
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> a member of the seattle ecd community is going to be in the czech republic
> sometime in the next few months, and wonders if there is any english
> country dancing he can attend while he is there. does anybody know of any?
there is dvorana, now run by jitka bonus, jasan's widow. they have a website:
http://www.vol.cz/dvorana/dance/
and if even there's few ecd, you may still find some dancing that is great fun,
full of energy.
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michael bergman wrote:
> ken pierce and barbara finney will demonstrate the steps specified
> for "christchurch bells," a group of ken's students will then show us
> the whole dance.
>
> we will dance lorin's version of "christchurch bells" (with walking
> steps) and compare it to playford's. we will then try it with steps
> as well. how far we get with the baroque steps will depend on how
> much experience the attendees have -- this is intended as an advanced
> class; previous experience with some sort of performance dance, or
> baroque dance steps, is recommended.
>
please tell me more about christchurch bells - does it have an oxford
connection?
at least two songs of the same name were composed for the collge/cathedral, and
as an ex-member i'd be delighted if the place had a dance of its own as well.
paul.
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archive-date: mon, 22 may 2000 11:04:27 pst
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on mon, 22 may 2000, paul sartin wrote:
> please tell me more about christchurch bells - does it have an oxford
> connection?
in the 10th edition of playford's dancing master it is listed as
"christ-church bells in oxon" on p. 104.
you can view a copy at:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/dihtml/dihome.html
and look for "playford, henry" under the "authors" category.
> at least two songs of the same name were composed for the collge/cathedral, and
> as an ex-member i'd be delighted if the place had a dance of its own as well.
> paul.
it's reasonably well-known over on this side of the puddle.
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at 06:29 pm 5/22/00 +0100, paul sartin wrote:
>please tell me more about christchurch bells - does it have an oxford
>connection?
>at least two songs of the same name were composed for the
collge/cathedral, and
>as an ex-member i'd be delighted if the place had a dance of its own as well.
dear paul,
it definitely does.
"some years before he became dean of christ church, oxford, henry aldrich
(1647-1710) composed this catch [upon christ church bells in oxford], which
was first published in 1673.
"a dance was set to it immediately and appeared in the next edition of the
dancing master."
--from shimer & keller's the playford ball, which contains more on the
dance's history
you are probably going to get *lots* of mail noting dances with oxford
connections, all of which we'll enjoy hearing you play when you're next on
this side of the pond.
cheers,
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date: mon, 22 may 2000 14:21:41 -0400 (edt)
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on mon, 22 may 2000, sharon green wrote:
[re query from paul sartin of belshazzar's feast (bf)about the origins of
"christchurch bells"]
> you are probably going to get *lots* of mail noting dances with oxford
> connections, all of which we'll enjoy hearing you play when you're next on
> this side of the pond.
... two of which occasions will take place in ann arbor on aug. 10 & 11:
1) concert by bf possibly followed by rowdy dancing on the 10th;
2) dance with bf and philippe callens on the 11th.
both will take place at the pittsfield grange in ann arbor, mi.
mark your calendars and head this way (not hard to manage if you happen to
be headed to between the bays dance camp in traverse city)!
eric arnold
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> english scottish session is apparently a few dancers shy of a full camp,
i've never heard it expressed quite that way before, but what a
colorful and fitting way to put it! however, while that may apply to
some of the attendees, i think it's rather unfair to generalize to the
entire session. ;-]
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"measured obsession" - the new cd!
country dancers of westchester is proud to announce
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the collection of 14 tunes is played by the band mgm
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8. fifty/fifty
9. measured obsession
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11. mylecharane
12. impertinence
13. severn bore
14. peace be with you
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archive-date: wed, 24 may 2000 13:11:20 pst
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in a message dated 5/24/00 2:00:37 pm, rich-at-
kreative.net writes:
>
>> english scottish session is apparently a few dancers shy of a full camp,
>
>i've never heard it expressed quite that way before, but what a
>colorful and fitting way to put it! however, while that may apply to
>some of the attendees, i think it's rather unfair to generalize to the
>entire session. ;-]
>
or, as we said in my ex-profession, a few loaves shy of a full bake.
anybody else want to leap into the fray? how about "his strip-the-willow
doesn't quite take him to the top of the set, if you know what i mean." ?
nilos
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at 04:10 pm 5/24/00 -0400, nilos wrote:
>or, as we said in my ex-profession, a few loaves shy of a full bake.
>anybody else want to leap into the fray? how about "his strip-the-willow
>doesn't quite take him to the top of the set, if you know what i mean." ?
or as we say in texas, "a few tacos short of a combo plate."
(the connection to dance being... being... snacks at the end of an evening
:-}??)
maryn
atlanta
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obviously this conversation will be "a few comments short of a thread" no
matter how many "me too's" we get.
sigh!
thanx, ric goldman
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> -----original message-----
> from: owner-ecd-at-
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> [mailto:owner-ecd-at-
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> sent: wednesday, may 24, 2000 3:21 pm
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>
>
> at 04:10 pm 5/24/00 -0400, nilos wrote:
> >or, as we said in my ex-profession, a few loaves shy of a full bake.
> >anybody else want to leap into the fray? how about "his
> strip-the-willow
> >doesn't quite take him to the top of the set, if you know what i mean." ?
>
> or as we say in texas, "a few tacos short of a combo plate."
> (the connection to dance being... being... snacks at the end of an evening
> :-}??)
>
> maryn
> atlanta
> (a houstonian in the 1970s and still recovering...)
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a sandwich short of a picnic
the lift (elavator) doesn't reach the top floor.
john meechan
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> at 04:10 pm 5/24/00 -0400, nilos wrote:
> >or, as we said in my ex-profession, a few loaves shy of a full bake.
> >anybody else want to leap into the fray? how about "his strip-the-willow
> >doesn't quite take him to the top of the set, if you know what i mean." ?
>
> or as we say in texas, "a few tacos short of a combo plate."
> (the connection to dance being... being... snacks at the end of an evening
> :-}??)
>
> maryn
> atlanta
> (a houstonian in the 1970s and still recovering...)
>
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> at 04:10 pm 5/24/00 -0400, nilos wrote:
> >or, as we said in my ex-profession, a few loaves shy of a full bake.
> >anybody else want to leap into the fray? how about "his strip-the-willow
> >doesn't quite take him to the top of the set, if you know what i mean." ?
>
> or as we say in texas, "a few tacos short of a combo plate."
> (the connection to dance being... being... snacks at the end of an evening
> :-}??)
>
> maryn
> atlanta
> (a houstonian in the 1970s and still recovering...)
>
"her circular hey doesn't have any changes?'
"he thought you were supposed to unwrap the presence."
"she thinks dargason was glen campbell's first hit."
"he's at the pin head of the set."
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archive-date: thu, 25 may 2000 06:35:02 pst
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date: thu, 25 may 2000 08:34:20 -0500
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>> at 04:10 pm 5/24/00 -0400, nilos wrote:
>> >or, as we said in my ex-profession, a few loaves shy of a full bake.
>> >anybody else want to leap into the fray? how about "his strip-the-willow
>> >doesn't quite take him to the top of the set, if you know what i mean." ?
>>
>> or as we say in texas, "a few tacos short of a combo plate."
>> (the connection to dance being... being... snacks at the end of an evening
>> :-}??)
>>
>> maryn
>> atlanta
>> (a houstonian in the 1970s and still recovering...)
s/he's one dancer shy of a full set...
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date: thu, 25 may 2000 15:45:53 -0400
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dear all,
anyone out there who can help me with this query?
the dance "yellow stockings," originally published in dublin, ireland, in
1726 by j. and w. neal appears in fogg and jackson's modern edition of
same. kitty keller tells me the tune was for a nursery song, then used
throughout the 18th century for a number of bitingly satirical songs on
infantile themes, with titles like "mad moll," "the virgin queen," and
"hey [o] my kitten."
what might be the significance of the title "yellow stockings?" is there
a particular irish connection? was it a song? any good juicy words
extant?
thanks for any help!
gene murrow
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on thu, 25 may 2000, gene murrow wrote:
[snip]
> what might be the significance of the title "yellow stockings?" is there
> a particular irish connection? was it a song? any good juicy words
> extant?
maybe the full title was "yellow stockings and green shoelaces." };-^)
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date: thu, 25 may 2000 17:27:20 -0400 (edt)
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on thu, 25 may 2000, gene murrow wrote:
> the dance "yellow stockings," originally published in dublin, ireland, in
> 1726 by j. and w. neal
[snip]
> what might be the significance of the title "yellow stockings?" is there
> a particular irish connection? was it a song? any good juicy words
> extant?
i've copied part of a post from a historical costume list that refers to
stockings in particular. there was a whole thread on connotations of the
colour yellow.
---
date: tue, 27 sep 1994
from: helen mayo
it was interesting that the oed cited yellow, and yellow hose as
associated with jealousy during the early 1600's, such as in 1607 a quote
"jealous men are eyther knaues or coxcomes, bee you neither: you weare
yellow hose without cause." (although to me, the cite could as easily mean
the yellow is for coxcombs) and there's a cite from fatal dowry in 1632
that says that "if my lord bee now growne yellow" means grown jealous.
---
the rest of it makes interesting reading, too:
http://sca.uwaterloo.ca:80/~fashion/archives/hcos94/n158
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date: thu, 25 may 2000 17:29:39 -0400 (edt)
from: will linden
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one would surmise that the title is more likely a reference to twelfth
night, where malvolio is duped into making himself ridiculous by receiving
a note supposedly from his countess, urging him to appear in public with
yellow stockings and cross-gartered. there does not seem to be anything
particularly irish about this.
will linden wlinden-at-
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actually, i read somewhere that yellow hose are a sign of bachalarhood.
hence, a married man would put them away in order to prevent his being taken
as eligible by a maiden- false advertising. i have a cd somewhere that talks
about this in its introduction, but i cant find it right now.
nicole foster
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> on thu, 25 may 2000, gene murrow wrote:
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> > the dance "yellow stockings," originally published in dublin, ireland,
in
> > 1726 by j. and w. neal
> [snip]
>
> > what might be the significance of the title "yellow stockings?" is
there
> > a particular irish connection? was it a song? any good juicy words
> > extant?
>
> i've copied part of a post from a historical costume list that refers to
> stockings in particular. there was a whole thread on connotations of the
> colour yellow.
>
> ---
> date: tue, 27 sep 1994
> from: helen mayo
>
> it was interesting that the oed cited yellow, and yellow hose as
> associated with jealousy during the early 1600's, such as in 1607 a quote
> "jealous men are eyther knaues or coxcomes, bee you neither: you weare
> yellow hose without cause." (although to me, the cite could as easily mean
> the yellow is for coxcombs) and there's a cite from fatal dowry in 1632
> that says that "if my lord bee now growne yellow" means grown jealous.
>
> ---
>
> the rest of it makes interesting reading, too:
>
> http://sca.uwaterloo.ca:80/~fashion/archives/hcos94/n158
>
> ----------
> christine
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> for information on english country dancing in toronto, canada :
> http://wwwinterlog.com/~cedar
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awhile back in my history museum career
i dated someone who worked as "a pilgrim" at plymoth plantation.
they used to sing a song "give me my yellow hose again"
that was all about wanting to be a bachelor again.
that would have been early 1600s, yes?
i know their scholarship is pretty careful...
but i wish i knew more about the song & yellow stockings.
-pamela goddard
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i just did a quick internet search for "yellow stockings" out of sheer
curiosity over what the search engine might turn up. there was one finding &
it ties together what others have posted. it's from an article called
"notes towards an elizabethan twelfth night" and it reads:
".......how intensely personal this all is to elizabeth can be discovered by
unraveling the most famous business of the show, the abhorred yellow
stockings malvolio sports to woo his fair olivia. to get the full import of
this little jest one must know some history. lacey baldwin smith reports in
henry viii, the mask of royalty:
"word of catherine of aragon's death was celebrated with a masque, banquet
and ball where henry, cross-gartered in yellow hose, danced the night away
with anne boleyn."
later elizabeth's father had her mother anne beheaded for adultery. such was
the lot of a king's wife. after the execution the court was in turmoil.
should they mourn or rejoice? no one knew. as always, they would take their
cue from the king. that night, his new paramour on his arm, he appeared
before them, dressed head to toe in resplendent canary yellow. "
the website where this was found was http://www.everreader.com/twelft2.htm
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friends,
we received a request in the office this morning for directions to
circassian circle. we're appallingly short-staffed today because of the
huge vacuum that is the marlboro ale (that giant sucking sound you
hear...), and no one here has these directions. anyone?
robin hayden
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robin hayden wrote :
> we received a request in the office this morning for directions to
> circassian circle. we're appallingly short-staffed today
> because of the
> huge vacuum that is the marlboro ale (that giant sucking sound you
> hear...), and no one here has these directions. anyone?
the instructions for the dance circassian circle, which i think is also
known as the big set (or something like that) see <
http://www.ceilidhmor.com/circassian.html >
regards
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robin hayden wrote :
> we received a request in the office this morning for directions to
> circassian circle. we're appallingly short-staffed today
> because of the
> huge vacuum that is the marlboro ale (that giant sucking sound you
> hear...), and no one here has these directions. anyone?
elmo wrote:
the instructions for the dance circassian circle, which i think is also
known as the big set (or something like that) see <
http://www.ceilidhmor.com/circassian.html >
and now i write:
1) robin, if there's still one copy of the combined community dance manuals
on the shelves, you've got a copy of the instructions for circassian circle.
2) what's in cdm - presented below - is "the circassian circle and the big
circle". (i happened to have this on disk already, although i've never had an
occasion to call it so far. i've been looking at this dance for a c.1900 ball
i'm calling in november in eureka.) this is basically two separate dances
jammed together, and there's been some discussion on the eceilidh mailing list
about whether they ought to be done together or not. the circassian circle
(also known in some dance manuals as the sicilian circle) is in sicilian circle
formation (duh); the big circle is what elmo's web reference above gives as
circassian circle, and it's in (double duh) big circle formation, partners
facing in around a ring.
[warning - excessive historical dance geek snottiness ahead: the level of
precision and rigorous research shown on the ceilidhmor site given above is
adequately shown by the fact that they're not sure whether the highland
schottische is a strathspey or a polka; the idea that it might be a schottische
hasn't occurred to them. snottiness off: however, they seem to be enthusiastic
and well-intentioned, they've probably learned the dances through the folk
process, and at least they're dancing.]
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circassian (and big) circle (cdm)
music: a jig tune for part one, a reel for part 2.
apw interprets: do part one til you're bored, then do part 2.
part i:
sicilian circle
a1: right and left through (or girls cross left, men cross right), repeat
to places.
a2: partners balance and swing.
b1: ladies chain
b2: swing and change or promenade to next couple
part ii:
big circle
a1: forward and back twice
a2: women to center and back to place
men to center and back to woman originally on his left (not partner).
b1: they swing
b2: promenade around, open to to big circle.
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(since this is supposed to be a traditional dance, and is certainly at least
135 years old, i don't feel like i'm stepping on anybody's toes by posting
this.)
at this point, everybody who hasn't already stopped reading probably ought to.
i happen to have some old dance manuals here at work with me - really, i don't
ordinarily - and here's what they say (imagine ". . . " scattered liberally
through these quotes):
hillgrove, 1865:
sicilian circle (called sicilienne circle in the table of contents)
music in two-four time - four parts
1. right and left - 8 bars.
2. balance to partners, and turn "
3. ladies' chain "
4. all promenade - passing once and a half round, and finish facing
the next couple, with whom the same figure is again repeated.
the dance was formerly a great favorite at public balls, but is now very seldom
introduced, on account of the rude manner of performing it. instead of setting
to their partners and turningin places, or passing once and a half round in the
promenade, the majority of rude dancers move hastily off witha gallop,
sometimes passing more than half the length of a ball room, and at crowded
balls are often unable to find the places which they left. when properly
danced, however, it is a very social dance.
wilson, 1899:
the sicilian circle (under "contra dances" in the toc)
two couples: right and left 8 measures
balance and turn partners "
forward and back 4 "
forward and through to next set (as in la tempete, p 100)
this turns out to be a 1s arch/ 2s duck under progression, not a promenade
one and a half.
wirth, 1903:
the circassian circle
figure: hands across, set and turn partners, ladies' chain, promenade once
around and across to another couple.
(a few pages later wirth, oddly, has "the scotch reel or 'sicillian circle'",
which resembles no other scotch reel i've encountered, by, among other things,
not having any reel. "this reel is still used when a party wish to have a
jolly time and want to romp and play, especially when all are acquainted."
swing with right hand / swing with left hand /right and left/ ladies' chain/
half promenade / right and left back/ forward and back /pass through and face
the next couple.)
hope this helps!
-- alan
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circasiian circle is originally a dance in two parts/shapes. one part is a circle (as described in elmo's response). the other part is a sicillian circle. you need to check whether the person requesting the information wants the dance as published and/or collected or as done in england at folk events today.
michael barraclough
on friday, may 26, 2000 at 09:04:24 pm, eldridge keith wrote:
> robin hayden wrote :
>
> > we received a request in the office this morning for directions to
> > circassian circle. we're appallingly short-staffed today
> > because of the
> > huge vacuum that is the marlboro ale (that giant sucking sound you
> > hear...), and no one here has these directions. anyone?
>
> the instructions for the dance circassian circle, which i think is also
> known as the big set (or something like that) see <
> http://www.ceilidhmor.com/circassian.html >
>
> regards
> elmo
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alan winston - ssrl central computing writes:
>
> 1) robin, if there's still one copy of the combined community dance manuals
> on the shelves, you've got a copy of the instructions for circassian circle.
>
> 2) what's in cdm - presented below - is "the circassian circle and the big
> circle". (i happened to have this on disk already, although i've never had an
> occasion to call it so far. i've been looking at this dance for a c.1900 ball
> i'm calling in november in eureka.) this is basically two separate dances
> jammed together, and there's been some discussion on the eceilidh mailing list
> about whether they ought to be done together or not. the circassian circle
> (also known in some dance manuals as the sicilian circle) is in sicilian circle
> formation (duh); the big circle is what elmo's web reference above gives as
> circassian circle, and it's in (double duh) big circle formation, partners
> facing in around a ring.
i've seen this listed in the cdm and have always wondered about it. we
do the 2nd part, calling it circassian circle as a circle mixer (quite often
using the tune irish washer woman). how was it meant to be danced, that is
when were you to transition from part 1 to part 2? i can't imagine that you
were to dance the sicilian circle part for 32 bars, then the big circle
part for 32 bars and then go back to the sicilian circle, etc. i imagine
it was to be danced as a sicilian circle for a while and then somehow
transition into a big circle mixer. how was this supposed to happen?
has anyone (on this list) ever danced it that way? how were the dancers
cued to make the transition?
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a request from a friend -- he remembers doing a dance called log cabin, to
an o'carolan tune (planxty hewlett), at the baltimore ball about 10 years
ago. he would like to know the author of the dance and a contact address or
phone number of said person.
can anyone help?
thanks,
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pat,
we did it at the baltimore ball in 1990. the author is robin rogers-browne,
stow, ma, 1988. it was published in the cdss news #94 (may/june 1990).
diane
at 09:14 pm 5/28/00 -0400, you wrote:
>a request from a friend -- he remembers doing a dance called log cabin, to
>an o'carolan tune (planxty hewlett), at the baltimore ball about 10 years
>ago. he would like to know the author of the dance and a contact address or
>phone number of said person.
>
>can anyone help?
>
>thanks,
>
>pat
>
diane schmit
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hi patricia:
> a request from a friend -- he remembers doing a dance called log cabin, to
> an o'carolan tune (planxty hewlett), at the baltimore ball about 10 years
> ago. he would like to know the author of the dance and a contact address or
> phone number of said person.
i have not heard of or danced "log cabin," but the sheet music is in an efdss
leaflet
[around 1964?] and the tune was used in many "american-style" reel dances.
cheers, john
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hi, all--
planxty hewlett (great tune!) is also used for the dances "an enchanted
place" and "evergreen."
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hello from the city of roses - portland, oregon
we are about to have our annual city rose festival and my regular english
dance falls in the middle of the festival time. so, of course i am looking
for "rose" dances. i have "rose of rochester" and "rose of sharon" in my
repertoire, and i am looking for more. i have danced the rose tree, but i
can't remember how it goes. can anybody send me the directions? also, are
there other "rose" ecd dances? (tunes and directions, please).
nan evans
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many thanks, diane.
i'll pass on the information right away.
(was nice seeing you at the washington ball.)
pat
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pat,
we did it at the baltimore ball in 1990. the author is robin rogers-browne,
stow, ma, 1988. it was published in the cdss news #94 (may/june 1990).
diane
at 09:14 pm 5/28/00 -0400, you wrote:
>a request from a friend -- he remembers doing a dance called log cabin, to
>an o'carolan tune (planxty hewlett), at the baltimore ball about 10 years
>ago. he would like to know the author of the dance and a contact address
or
>phone number of said person.
>
>can anyone help?
>
>thanks,
>
>pat
>
diane schmit
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rose of tankerton, in the pat shaw collection [v.3]--you've got that,
right? there's also rose is white & rose is red, which is in v.6 of sharp.
the rose tree is in ceilidh saturday night. and fried's roses among
thorns is in not quite new. plus there's something called the rose in
country dances of colonial america.
shall i leave the pile of books on your pillow to await your arrival
tomorrow night? or would you prefer a chocolate mint?
hugs,
sharon
at 10:17 pm 5/29/00 -0400, nan1evans-at-
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>hello from the city of roses - portland, oregon
>
>we are about to have our annual city rose festival and my regular english
>dance falls in the middle of the festival time. so, of course i am looking
>for "rose" dances. i have "rose of rochester" and "rose of sharon" in my
>repertoire, and i am looking for more. i have danced the rose tree, but i
>can't remember how it goes. can anybody send me the directions? also, are
>there other "rose" ecd dances? (tunes and directions, please).
>
>nan evans
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nan asked for rose dances; sharon replied:
rose of tankerton, in the pat shaw collection [v.3]--you've got that,
right? there's also rose is white & rose is red, which is in v.6 of sharp.
the rose tree is in ceilidh saturday night. and fried's roses among
thorns is in not quite new. plus there's something called the rose in
country dances of colonial america.
don't forget heidenroslein (also in pat shaw collection), waterfall waltz
(the second tune in barnes is "flowers of the thorn"), and for a last waltz,
rose of allenvale (in the black barnes book).
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on mon, 29 may 2000, alan winston - ssrl central computing wrote:
> nan asked for rose dances; sharon replied:
>
> rose of tankerton, in the pat shaw collection [v.3]--you've got that,
> right? there's also rose is white & rose is red, which is in v.6 of sharp.
> the rose tree is in ceilidh saturday night. and fried's roses among
> thorns is in not quite new. plus there's something called the rose in
> country dances of colonial america.
>
> don't forget heidenroslein (also in pat shaw collection), waterfall waltz
> (the second tune in barnes is "flowers of the thorn"), and for a last waltz,
> rose of allenvale (in the black barnes book).
there's levi jackson rose, too.
and if you can throw in a pun, there's she rose and let me in, by tom
cook, in packington's pound & spoil the broth, and in the singular, row
well ye mariners...
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orly krasner wrote:
> hi, all--
> planxty hewlett (great tune!) is also used for the dances "an enchanted
> place" and "evergreen."
who wrote the dance "evergreen" and where can it be found?
philippe callens
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> hello from the city of roses - portland, oregon
>
> we are about to have our annual city rose festival and my regular english
> dance falls in the middle of the festival time. so, of course i am looking
> for "rose" dances. i have "rose of rochester" and "rose of sharon" in my
> repertoire, and i am looking for more. i have danced the rose tree, but i
> can't remember how it goes. can anybody send me the directions? also, are
> there other "rose" ecd dances? (tunes and directions, please).
eight years ago, at burton manor, i danced "rose revived" -- a nice dance which
i didn't write down. maybe any of the northerers know about this dance ...
philippe callens
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in england circassian circle (as a circle, not the sicilian circle version)
is a very common final dance for pta type dances
alan may think that thomas green at
http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~thomas.green/barndances/
shows better scholarship (though i disagree with his progression for circassian
circle! -- i would say swing your corner for a progression)
i think the only time i have ever danced the sicilian circle version was when
a caller was trying to be obscure and challenging us to recognise the dance.
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hugh wrote:
>alan may think that thomas green at
>http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~thomas.green/barndances/
>shows better scholarship (though i disagree with his progression for circassian
>circle! -- i would say swing your corner for a progression)
actually, i do think that the thomas green barndance archive is a good
resource. i am already regretting the degree of snottiness and condescension
i showed about the ceilidhmor site in that earlier post.
in fact, the ceilidhmor people are trying to document the dances they dance
the way they dance them, and it was not my place to judge them at all -
especially not on an axis (scholarship/taxonomy/historical accuracy) that
isn't what they're trying to accomplish.
that said, i wonder when "circassian circle" changed, among most of the people
who use the name at all, to be the big circle part, given that 1865-1917 seem
to give the name to the sicilian circle part, or whether, perhaps, all the
sources that call that part "sicilian circle" are correct and the (smaller
number of) ones that call it "circassian circle" are just confused. all the
dance manuals i quoted are american (although mr. hillgrove himself was, i
think, english); i have no comparable late-nineteenth century english manuals
to check.
oh, i only very recently got that "orcadian" was an adjective meaning "of the
orkneys"; does "circassian" mean something to brits that it doesn't to
americans? ("of circassia" isn't too helpful.)
-- alan
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"rose dances" being danced in yorkshire at present are:
"the rose garden" by elsie watson published in "step lightly" to tune
"the chestnut"
"the rose revived" by e.bloy to tune "to a wild rose" adapted by brian
jenkins"
and then how about "she rose and let me in"?! i found it in tom cooks
"spoil the broth"
trevor monson.
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> hello from the city of roses - portland, oregon
>
> we are about to have our annual city rose festival and my regular
english
> dance falls in the middle of the festival time. so, of course i am
looking
> for "rose" dances. i have "rose of rochester" and "rose of sharon" in
my
> repertoire, and i am looking for more. i have danced the rose tree,
but i
> can't remember how it goes. can anybody send me the directions?
also, are
> there other "rose" ecd dances? (tunes and directions, please).
>
> nan evans
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i have two other versions of circassian circle i collected from keith
gregson, now living in sunderland, but originally from cumberland when these
dances we often danced at local village hops.
circassian circle in 4s (cumbria)
sicilian circle
a1 men set whilst women cross over and change places;
women set whilst men cross over and change places.
a2 set to partner and swing partner
b1 whole ladies chain - north country style
b2 forward and back to meet opposites;
pass on
circassian circle part two (cumbria)
sicilian circle
a1 anti clockwise facing couples gallop round the circle between the
other couples and back
a2 clockwise couples do the same.
b1 whole north country ladies chain
b2 forward and back to meet opposites
a-cl facing couple go though arch made by other.
i'm not sure how far they go back - but if they were danced at local village
dances they are good enough for me.
john meechan
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> in england circassian circle (as a circle, not the sicilian circle
version)
> is a very common final dance for pta type dances
>
> alan may think that thomas green at
> http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~thomas.green/barndances/
> shows better scholarship (though i disagree with his progression for
circassian
> circle! -- i would say swing your corner for a progression)
>
> i think the only time i have ever danced the sicilian circle version was
when
> a caller was trying to be obscure and challenging us to recognise the
dance.
>
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on tue, 30 may 2000, philippe callens wrote:
>
>
> orly krasner wrote:
>
> > hi, all--
> > planxty hewlett (great tune!) is also used for the dances "an enchanted
> > place" and "evergreen."
>
> who wrote the dance "evergreen" and where can it be found?
>
> philippe callens
>
dear friends,
the directions and music to both "evergreen" by orly krassner, and "log
cabin" by robin rodgers brown will be available soon in "hudson barn ii"
to be published by the boston centre. we'd hope to get this out sooner,
but chris reynolds, who does the actual production work for us, (as well
as the artwork for our cd series ) has been swamped.
best,
terry
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there's also "sweet rosi red", a dutch dance similar to the playfords - i
remember dancing it to driving, evocativeand memorable music at the levi
jackson dance weekend about 15 years ago. sorry, i have no source for
directions or music, but remember it as a great dance, simple and very
phrased, that gets done far too seldom. perhaps someone more fond of
research than i can provide sources.
susan booker
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susan b. booker wrote:
>
> there's also "sweet rosi red", a dutch dance similar to the playfords - i
> remember dancing it to driving, evocativeand memorable music at the levi
> jackson dance weekend about 15 years ago. sorry, i have no source for
> directions or music, but remember it as a great dance, simple and very
> phrased, that gets done far too seldom. perhaps someone more fond of
> research than i can provide sources.
>
> susan booker
http://ban.joh.cam.ac.uk/~abs21/dance.html will tell you it is pat shaw
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thanks to john woods for taking time to respond. i believe, however, that
the info that diane schmit supplied is what my friend was seeking.
i checked a tune database and found two versions of log cabin. one tune
sounded like something from the civil war era ("oh, that ole' log cabin by
the road..."). the other sounded suitable for a contra dance and is
probably the tune to which john was referring.
pat
(john, i tried answering your post directly but my email program refused to
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thanks for all your replies. what made me think i was short-staffed?!
robin
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to everyone in the area--
you're invited to...
an english country dance workshop
saturday june 3, 2000- 4 to 6 pm $5
ogden memorial church, chatham
for beginners and experienced ec dancers
calling by loretta holz
music by the flying romanos -
robin russell, norma castle, marnen laibow-koser
$5 admission
eat dinner in the town of chatham (lots of options)
then go to the swingin’ terns 8 pm dance with
liz bradley & the illegal contraband
loretta holz 732-356-7773 x101 (voice)
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sounds like fun! wish i could be there, but i've got a calling gig that
day...
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thanks for your reply, patricia.
> thanks to john wood [no "s"!!] for taking time to respond. i believe,
> however, that
> the info that diane schmit supplied is what my friend was seeking.
>
> i checked a tune database and found two versions of log cabin. one tune
> sounded like something from the civil war era ("oh, that ole' log cabin by
> the road..."). the other sounded suitable for a contra dance and is
> probably the tune to which john was referring.
> (john, i tried answering your post directly but my email program refused to
> send it.)
thank you again for mentioning this. i cannot really understand why you should
not have been able to get me. but last friday, when i was going away for the
weekend [to take a workshop] i tried to close down my computer. not only would
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when i returned monday, everything was o.k. not a bug but a gremlin, i imagine!
(:-)) !
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thanks for your reply, patricia.
thanks to john wood [no
"s"!!] for taking time to respond. i believe, however,
that
the info that diane schmit supplied is what my friend was seeking.
i checked a tune database and found two versions of log cabin.
one tune
sounded like something from the civil war era ("oh, that ole' log cabin
by
the road..."). the other sounded suitable for a contra dance
and is
probably the tune to which john was referring.
(john, i tried answering your post directly but my
email program refused to
send it.)
thank you again for mentioning this. i cannot really understand why you
should not have been able to get me. but last friday, when i was going
away for the weekend [to take a workshop] i tried to close down my computer.
not only would it not close properly, but i was unable to gather my usual
ration of e-mails, etc.
when i returned monday, everything was o.k. not a bug but a gremlin,
i imagine! (:-)) !
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could someone point me toward a detailed description of the steps
to newcastle? we tried to dance it using playford's original
directions, and had some difficulties deciding how far around to
circle when doing the star, and how many times to side/arm while
progressing. it didn't seem to fit the music very well.
thanks!
barbara carter
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the playford ball (keller and shimer) has the music, cecil sharp's
reconstruction, and the original instructions.
pat
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could someone point me toward a detailed description of the steps
to newcastle? we tried to dance it using playford's original
directions, and had some difficulties deciding how far around to
circle when doing the star, and how many times to side/arm while
progressing. it didn't seem to fit the music very well.
thanks!
barbara carter
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hi: here's info on jacqueline schwab and orly krasner that i
thought would be good to share. it was not solicited by either of
them; i just thought it would be interesting and useful.
orly has been coming up with some really neat dances, such as
"millennium morn", written on new year's day -- we did it just last
night at the cdny tuesday night dance. and last week, on may 23,
there was the first performance (danced by all) of her delightful and
elegant "when laura smiles", commissioned by david randall to
honor his fiancee, laura congleton. the tune, very arresting and a
bit quirky, is from the 1601 air of the same name, by philip rosseter,
and orly came up with a set of figures that captured and utilized the
quirkiness in a very clever way. good dance. (any comments to orly
can, i'm sure, be sent to okrasner-at-
hotmail.com ).
orly also wrote a review for another venue, and told me i could use
it anywhere else where it seemed appropriate, and this seemed like an
appropriate place, so here it is. if i did wrong, please yell at me, not
at
either of the others. (and it's probably ok to reprint it elsewhere too;
just check with the reviewer.) thanks. sol
cd review
down came an angel: jacqueline schwab, piano
by orly krasner
down came an angel, pianist jacqueline schwab’s latest solo cd on the
dorian label (dor-90275), is not a christmas album. oh, sure, it’s
subtitled “music for christmas,” but don’t let it fool you. this is a
“must
own” recording, especially if you have a stack of disks stored with your
ornaments and tinsel to put you in the holiday mood. the only difference
is
that you won’t pack this one away when the tree comes down.
schwab has an impressive list of accomplishments to her credit.
dancers
will recognize her inimitable improvisational style from her association
with bare necessities, the english country dance ensemble. pbs fans have
probably heard her on a soundtrack for a ken burns series; she’s done
eight
of them, including the grammy award-winning civil war. she has also
recorded with jean redpath, andrea hoag and dean shostak. schwab has
even
performed at the white house. if you’re still unfamiliar with the
jacqueline schwab sound, don’t wait until christmas to discover this
recording!
what gives down came an angel its year-round appeal is the absence of
hackneyed carols and nutcracker excerpts. the repertory consists of
appalachian hymns and american carols, parlor songs and spirituals. the
liner notes include the lyrics of each song as well as its pedigree.
this
makes for fascinating reading, especially for the more familiar tunes.
“it
came upon the midnight clear,” “away in a manger,” “we three kings of
orient
are,” and “o little town of bethlehem” are all transformed here into
something fresh and new. the harmonies are lush, the textures as warm
and
woolly as your favorite sweater.
jacqueline schwab approaches this music in the true holiday spirit.
her
quiet cd captures the meditative and reflective side of the season, the
part
that gets lost once the shopping frenzy hits. but the calm surface is
deceptive; this album shimmers with rhythmic vitality and energy. the
piano
itself has a nice presence with its rich bass and sparkling treble. when
you need a break from the daily decibels, this cd will refresh your
soul—no
matter what the season.
you can pick up a copy at your favorite record store (or website), or
by
mail order. send a check payable to jacqueline schwab for $15 per cd,
plus
$2 shipping ($1/cd shipping for additional cds in the same order). send
to:
p.o. box 380063, cambridge, ma 02238-0063. for further information,
jacqueline schwab can be contacted via email at jaspianist-at-
aol.com or by
phone, 781-646-2321.
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