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summit eq-200 [message #69730]
thu, 02 june 2005 17:40
zenmasteringmessages: 79registered: march 2005 location: left coast of canada
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hi there,
does anybody have mastering-level experience with the summit eq-200 or the mpe-200?
there's one of these on e-bay as well as mr. neve's other offspring (the previously mentioned medici, possibly sans pink noise capability!)
best,
graemme
zen mastering
vancouver, canada
+1.604.874.9096
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re: summit eq-200 [message #69736 is a reply to message #69730 ]
thu, 02 june 2005 18:14
mark donahuemessages: 135registered: september 2004 location: boston, ma
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dear gramme,
i have one of the mpe-200 eq's. i have to say that it has it's pluses and minuses. the interface is very fast to work on and easy to read/document, the ability to recall presets is of marginal value. (i find that in the time it takes me to save/recall the preset, i could have just dialed it in) it is much quicker getting around in stereo mode than dual mono, as the single set of controls requires paging to get to the other channel.
as far as the sound, it is not the most transparent device in the world, but has a pleasant sound. i often put a filter on line and dont use any gain just to add some color. it is also not for notching things, it is a real program eq and it sounds best with the wider q values. it does not have a true hardwire bypass, so take that into consideration when you add it to your mastering chain. if you arent using inserts on your mastering desk, then the signal is always going through the i/o. my one complaint is that in the mpe, the hpf/lpf are in the micpreamp and not in the eq section. i have never had a mic plugged into the mic pre, so i can not comment on its sound.
i was actually looking at that medici eq myself for my ms processing chain. it is pretty nice eq but the whole lack of detents is a deal breaker for stereo work. i had one a long time ago and liked the sound, but the stupid pink noise thing is amazingly kludgy to use and brings the session to a grinding halt. and if you want to change something after doing the stupid null thing, you have to do the stupid null thing all over again. it's great if you are billing by the hour, but if you want to get any work done....
i currently have some upgraded neumann oe duo's and 495stb's doing duty in the ms loop depending on the desire for xformers or not, but the colored sound of each of these is really for effect.
the best kept secret in the mastering eq world is really the api 550m. they are cheap, good sounding and very assurate from unit to unit. i use these in both my stereo and surround setup and don't know what i would do without them. there are a few mods that open up to top end even farther than stock that make these truely my favorite eq for shaping. again, these are not for doing surgery, but the resetability speed of use and sound quality make these a real bargain.
as always, ymmv.
all the best,
mark
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mark donahue
chief mastering engineer
soundmirror, inc.
boston, ma
http://www.soundmirror.com
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re: summit eq-200 [message #69742 is a reply to message #69736 ]
thu, 02 june 2005 18:48
zenmasteringmessages: 79registered: march 2005 location: left coast of canada
member
hi mark,
thanks for your opinions...much appreciated!
hopefully, you've now gotten pyramix 5.05b running(?)
'good to hear from you.
best,
graemme
zen mastering
vancouver, canada
+1.604.874.9096
info at zenmastering dot netreport message to a moderator
re: summit eq-200 [message #69743 is a reply to message #69736 ]
thu, 02 june 2005 18:56
david glassermessages: 243registered: april 2004
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mark donahue wrote on thu, 02 june 2005 17:14the best kept secret in the mastering eq world is really the api 550m. they are cheap, good sounding and very assurate from unit to unit. i use these in both my stereo and surround setup and don't know what i would do without them. there are a few mods that open up to top end even farther than stock that make these truely my favorite eq for shaping. again, these are not for doing surgery, but the resetability speed of use and sound quality make these a real bargain.
mark
ditto on the api 550m. we added lundall (sp?) input xfrmrs to ours (the stock units are unbal in/xfrmr bal out). what mods did you do to yours?
david glasser
airshow mastering
boulder, co
dave@airshowmastering.com
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re: summit eq-200 [message #69807 is a reply to message #69743 ]
fri, 03 june 2005 05:45
mark donahuemessages: 135registered: september 2004 location: boston, ma
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david glasser wrote on thu, 02 june 2005 19:56mark donahue wrote on thu, 02 june 2005 17:14the best kept secret in the mastering eq world is really the api 550m. they are cheap, good sounding and very assurate from unit to unit. i use these in both my stereo and surround setup and don't know what i would do without them. there are a few mods that open up to top end even farther than stock that make these truely my favorite eq for shaping. again, these are not for doing surgery, but the resetability speed of use and sound quality make these a real bargain.
mark
ditto on the api 550m. we added lundall (sp?) input xfrmrs to ours (the stock units are unbal in/xfrmr bal out). what mods did you do to yours?
we actually went the exact opposite route. i added an unbalanced very high performance active driving output so i have the ability to have the transformer or not. very sweet sounding indeed.
all the best,
mark
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mark donahue
chief mastering engineer
soundmirror, inc.
boston, ma
http://www.soundmirror.com
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re: summit eq-200 [message #69832 is a reply to message #69730 ]
fri, 03 june 2005 08:20
phil demetromessages: 185registered: may 2004 location: toronto, canada
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david,
are you at liberty to tell which lundahl's were used on the input stage?
btw, do you experience a boost in level by approx. 1.5 db when you put the eq's in?
i remember running tones through my system sometime after i bought them and when i engaged the 550m i got a a noticeable jump?
phil
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phil demetro
mastering at the lacquer channel, toronto
www.lacquerchannel.com
www.myspace.com/phildemetro
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re: summit eq-200 [message #69842 is a reply to message #69832 ]
fri, 03 june 2005 08:43
david glassermessages: 243registered: april 2004
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phild wrote on fri, 03 june 2005 07:20david,
are you at liberty to tell which lundahl's were used on the input stage?
hi phil,
i'll check. don't remember offhand
quote:
btw, do you experience a boost in level by approx. 1.5 db when you put the eq's in?
it's not a bug, it's a feature. they all do that.
david glasser
airshow mastering
boulder, co
dave@airshowmastering.com
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re: summit eq-200 [message #69847 is a reply to message #69730 ]
fri, 03 june 2005 08:54
phil demetromessages: 185registered: may 2004 location: toronto, canada
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thank you, david!
did your api compressor require the same mod?
(i just visited your website...i didn't know dominic maita was working at airshow. i always spied him at sterling sound when i've been down there?)
nonetheless, great looking studios at airshow.
phil
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phil demetro
mastering at the lacquer channel, toronto
www.lacquerchannel.com
www.myspace.com/phildemetro
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re: summit eq-200 [message #69886 is a reply to message #69847 ]
fri, 03 june 2005 11:29
david glassermessages: 243registered: april 2004
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phild wrote on fri, 03 june 2005 07:54thank you, david!
did your api compressor require the same mod?
(i just visited your website...i didn't know dominic maita was working at airshow. i always spied him at sterling sound when i've been down there?)
nonetheless, great looking studios at airshow.
phil
hi phil,
the api 2500 is fully balanced.
dom has been at airshow over a year. great asset to the operation.
dave
david glasser
airshow mastering
boulder, co
dave@airshowmastering.com
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re: summit eq-200 [message #69959 is a reply to message #69886 ]
fri, 03 june 2005 20:29
garrett hmessages: 203registered: december 2004 location: pittsburgh, pa
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i've been using the summit eq-200 for quite a while. as previously stated, it's great for broad strokes. also, putting a band in and out of the signal can create an audible pop. kudos to the gang at summit who suggested i create a preset where all of the settings were at zero. due to the design, flipping into that recall does not generate a pop.
if you're working on stereo mixes and applying the same to both sides, being able to use one knob to do both is a dream.
having digital controls on an analog eq is also superb for recalls. even if you document them vs. saving the settings, the reset factor is outstanding.
finally, the tech support at summit is impeccable. not all the small vendors can make that boast.
best,
gh
treelady studios, pittsburgh, pa
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re: summit eq-200 [message #75379 is a reply to message #69736 ]
sun, 03 july 2005 01:10
pilgrimmessages: 3registered: november 2004
welcome
mark donahue wrote on fri, 03 june 2005 00:14dear gramme,
the best kept secret in the mastering eq world is really the api 550m. they are cheap, good sounding and very assurate from unit to unit. i use these in both my stereo and surround setup and don't know what i would do without them. there are a few mods that open up to top end even farther than stock that make these truely my favorite eq for shaping. again, these are not for doing surgery, but the resetability speed of use and sound quality make these a real bargain.
as always, ymmv.
all the best,
mark
hello mark
sounds interesting, but i didn't find any information about the api 550m.
is it a 550b especially for mastering? what is different, and where can i find information about that eq?
thanx
best wishes
rené
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re: summit eq-200 [message #75397 is a reply to message #69730 ]
sun, 03 july 2005 07:06
zetterstroemmessages: 765registered: december 2004 location: copenhagen
gold member
used the summit (the on without buttons) for years..... controlled by a plugin....
great mix tool .... and great for mastering too.... nice to be able to switch bands in and out with automation....
pity the one i used had mic pre's..... only the ones without has hp filter
the top end is a tiny bit grainy..... but the mids and bottom i really like....
i must try to change op-amp's on it....
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re: summit eq-200 [message #75427 is a reply to message #69736 ]
sun, 03 july 2005 11:42
totalsonicmessages: 2237registered: may 2004 location: brooklyn, new york
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mark donahue wrote on fri, 03 june 2005 00:14
i was actually looking at that medici eq myself for my ms processing chain. it is pretty nice eq but the whole lack of detents is a deal breaker for stereo work. i had one a long time ago and liked the sound, but the stupid pink noise thing is amazingly kludgy to use and brings the session to a grinding halt. and if you want to change something after doing the stupid null thing, you have to do the stupid null thing all over again. it's great if you are billing by the hour, but if you want to get any work done....
hmmm... definitely the pink noise null thing isn't the most ergonomic way of matching sides for stereo work - but it never has been as bad for me to deal with as you make out here. i always find the settings i want, null in the headphones, and then do a load in, filling in my recall sheet as the track is loading. usually takes me all of 1 minute to do a null. it'd be nice not to have to do this but the sound of the midrange on it is worth the slight pain in the arse to me.
best regards,
steve berson
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