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sarah-flute
apr 20 2007, 01:01 pm
you have to laugh...a long time ago when i first filled in an entry form i put my ba in russian on it, because they asked for qualifications... i should have realised they meant musical ones really. i've also always put my full name without any extra bits on the bit where it asks whose name you'd like on the cert...but obviously i forgot this last time round, because these two certificates proudly announce the students were entered by the possessor of a ba (hons) rus.ooops.
ad_libitum
apr 20 2007, 01:04 pm
sarah - that's brilliant! just like something i'd probably do myself
carol*piano
apr 20 2007, 01:28 pm
i always put "carol ***** bsc" - even though it's in maths! why not i say!
maizie
apr 20 2007, 01:36 pm
i was very very tempted, when i entered myself for my g3 theory, to put my ma on it, but in the end i didn't.i have a training record here at work, and on it we have to record all our university-and-higher qualifications.it's been fine for ages, it's just said ma biological sciences, which was the degree that got me the job that has eventually evolved in to my current role of being a programmer.i've now added my certaps (certificate in astronomy and planetary science).and i've worked out that if i do five more ou courses (and i think i've chosen which ones they will be...), i will get to add ba (hons) humanities with classical studies and also bsc (no hons, no subject). this is very very silly indeed, but it'll make for an interesting end of year evaluation
organgrinder
apr 20 2007, 01:37 pm
quote(maizie @ apr 20 2007, 02:36 pm) i was very very tempted, when i entered myself for my g3 theory, to put my ma on it, but in the end i didn't.i have a training record here at work, and on it we have to record all our university-and-higher qualifications.it's been fine for ages, it's just said ma biological sciences, which was the degree that got me the job that has eventually evolved in to my current role of being a programmer.i've now added my certaps (certificate in astronomy and planetary science).and i've worked out that if i do five more ou courses (and i think i've chosen which ones they will be...), i will get to add ba (hons) humanities with classical studies and also bsc (no hons, no subject). this is very very silly indeed, but it'll make for an interesting end of year evaluation and why not!!!!!
phil dixon
apr 20 2007, 01:40 pm
if ever i do a doctorate in philosophy, i can sign my name;phild dphil
sarah-flute
apr 20 2007, 01:41 pm
quote(phil dixon @ apr 20 2007, 02:40 pm) if ever i do a doctorate in philosophy, i can sign my name;phild dphil
jm-hamilton
apr 20 2007, 01:57 pm
quote(phil dixon @ apr 20 2007, 02:40 pm) if ever i do a doctorate in philosophy, i can sign my name;phild dphilmaybe it's worth doing the doctorate just to be able to do that quote(carol*piano @ apr 20 2007, 02:28 pm) i always put "carol ***** bsc" - even though it's in maths! why not i say! when i enter pupils or myself i put msc as well as the relevant ones - mine's in information systems.
fsharpminor
apr 20 2007, 02:06 pm
i used to have the opposite. my business cards were printed with b.sc. a.l.c.m. f.inst s.m.mthe alcm was totally irrelevant to the chemical industry in which i work, but sometimes it raised a talking point.but that was a long time ago. i dont have it on now. in fact i dont have any of them on, not even the bsc.
deborah
apr 20 2007, 02:27 pm
dare we ask what mrbouffant's business cards and exam certificates say?
andante_in_c
apr 20 2007, 02:32 pm
quote(deborah @ apr 20 2007, 03:27 pm) dare we ask what mrbouffant's business cards and exam certificates say? i imagine they are twice as long as everyone else's business cards.
sarah-flute
apr 20 2007, 02:33 pm
phil dixon
apr 20 2007, 02:35 pm
i've got 100meters breast-stroke and my cycling proficiency certificates. do they count?
maizie
apr 20 2007, 02:37 pm
quote(phil dixon @ apr 20 2007, 02:40 pm) phild dphilone of my friends name phil did his dphil after his ma so that he can be: phil, madphil
deborah
apr 20 2007, 02:38 pm
quote(phil dixon @ apr 20 2007, 02:40 pm) if ever i do a doctorate in philosophy, i can sign my name;phild dphilsounds like my reasons for wanting a damehood - the "at home" cards would read dame deb dbe
dcmbarton
apr 20 2007, 02:41 pm
of course, you're never allowed enough characters... david
phil dixon
apr 20 2007, 02:42 pm
my friend's name is emma, but she calls herself em. if she does an ma she can be emma again.(i'll get my coat)
earplugs
apr 20 2007, 02:58 pm
you can just imagine it grade 8 distinction in pianoforteentered by mr a. teacher 25 meters breastroke
sarah-flute
apr 20 2007, 03:00 pm
quote(earplugs @ apr 20 2007, 03:58 pm) you can just imagine it grade 8 distinction in pianoforteentered by mr a. teacher 25 meters breastroke
fsharpminor
apr 20 2007, 03:43 pm
quote(sarah-flute @ apr 20 2007, 04:00 pm) quote(earplugs @ apr 20 2007, 03:58 pm) you can just imagine it grade 8 distinction in pianoforteentered by mr a. teacher 25 meters breastroke i somehow dont think ladies would like a teacher with a breaststroke qualification !
cyrilla
apr 20 2007, 03:44 pm
yetanotherpianist
apr 20 2007, 03:44 pm
well they might, but their husbands might have a thing or two to say about it....
frederic chopin
apr 20 2007, 03:51 pm
quote(yetanotherpianist @ apr 20 2007, 04:44 pm) well they might, but their husbands might have a thing or two to say about it.... congratulations, dr yap - just noticed your signature!
idiotmatthew
apr 20 2007, 06:43 pm
quote(andante_in_c @ apr 20 2007, 03:32 pm) quote(deborah @ apr 20 2007, 03:27 pm) dare we ask what mrbouffant's business cards and exam certificates say? i imagine they are twice as long as everyone else's business cards. quote(dcmbarton @ apr 20 2007, 03:41 pm) of course, you're never allowed enough characters... davidwould dcmbarton and mrbouffant use both sides of the business card? or maybe use a couple then staple the two together?
busybee
apr 20 2007, 07:21 pm
quote(phil dixon @ apr 20 2007, 02:42 pm) my friend's name is emma, but she calls herself em. if she does an ma she can be emma again.(i'll get my coat)my initials are ab (sounds familiar - but can't decide quite where). anyway when i was a ba i was abba.didn't get any of the royalties though!
frederic chopin
apr 20 2007, 07:37 pm
quote(idiotmatthew @ apr 20 2007, 07:43 pm) would dcmbarton and mrbouffant use both sides of the business card? or maybe use a couple then staple the two together? they would probably have to use a business card size booklet instead...!
mrbouffant
apr 20 2007, 09:43 pm
quote(frederic chopin @ apr 20 2007, 08:37 pm) quote(idiotmatthew @ apr 20 2007, 07:43 pm) would dcmbarton and mrbouffant use both sides of the business card? or maybe use a couple then staple the two together? they would probably have to use a business card size booklet instead...! i fancy dcmbarton has more letters than me.. i only have 57!
dcmbarton
apr 20 2007, 09:47 pm
quote(mrbouffant @ apr 20 2007, 10:43 pm) quote(frederic chopin @ apr 20 2007, 08:37 pm) quote(idiotmatthew @ apr 20 2007, 07:43 pm) would dcmbarton and mrbouffant use both sides of the business card? or maybe use a couple then staple the two together? they would probably have to use a business card size booklet instead...! i fancy dcmbarton has more letters than me.. i only have 57! i've lost count... david
mrbouffant
apr 20 2007, 09:49 pm
quote(dcmbarton @ apr 20 2007, 10:47 pm) quote(mrbouffant @ apr 20 2007, 10:43 pm) quote(frederic chopin @ apr 20 2007, 08:37 pm) quote(idiotmatthew @ apr 20 2007, 07:43 pm) would dcmbarton and mrbouffant use both sides of the business card? or maybe use a couple then staple the two together? they would probably have to use a business card size booklet instead...! i fancy dcmbarton has more letters than me.. i only have 57! i've lost count... davidi've lost the plot!
kerioboe
apr 20 2007, 09:50 pm
quote(mrbouffant @ apr 20 2007, 11:43 pm) quote(frederic chopin @ apr 20 2007, 08:37 pm) quote(idiotmatthew @ apr 20 2007, 07:43 pm) would dcmbarton and mrbouffant use both sides of the business card? or maybe use a couple then staple the two together? they would probably have to use a business card size booklet instead...! i fancy dcmbarton has more letters than me.. i only have 57! the french go in for giving the name in full rather than using letters. i am (amongst other things) "agrégée de l'université" - that's 20 letters for one title (although a man would only get 19).
yetanotherpianist
apr 20 2007, 09:51 pm
mrb - would you say after the first degree and fellowship diploma or two, the rest is just for fun?
sarah-flute
apr 20 2007, 10:01 pm
presumably one could pick and choose depending on which letters might be vaguely relevant!
mrbouffant
apr 20 2007, 10:05 pm
of course it matters on the context. i bluntly aggregated everything together, including those quallies which were superseded by others.on a contextual basis, my "professional" quallies are:bsc ceng fbcs citp(nice and simple)my "musical" quallies are merely what are in my sig, i.e.frsm llcm ltcl arcoof course you know i'm seeking to upgrade llcm to flcm and the ma, fingers crossed, will appear sometime this year.if i'm completely without taste, i could put everything together which is where 57 came from:bsc ceng fbcs citp frsm lrsm dipabrsm llcm alcm ltcl atcl arco pgcertmus(the pgcertmus is a stepping stone on the way to the ma)hope this clarifies the issue
idiotmatthew
apr 21 2007, 12:34 am
quote(mrbouffant @ apr 20 2007, 11:05 pm) of course it matters on the context. i bluntly aggregated everything together, including those quallies which were superseded by others.on a contextual basis, my "professional" quallies are:bsc ceng fbcs citp(nice and simple)my "musical" quallies are merely what are in my sig, i.e.frsm llcm ltcl arcoof course you know i'm seeking to upgrade llcm to flcm and the ma, fingers crossed, will appear sometime this year.if i'm completely without taste, i could put everything together which is where 57 came from:bsc ceng fbcs citp frsm lrsm dipabrsm llcm alcm ltcl atcl arco pgcertmus(the pgcertmus is a stepping stone on the way to the ma)hope this clarifies the issue mrbouffant, is it exciting to be a chartered engineer? which engineering discipline do you specialise in? i guess in computer science or information engineering as you have got the fbcs and citp? which subejct are you doing for ur ma? did u start ur music career or ur science career first? i must work harder to collect more letters from now on. i want a ceng toooooo (but i don't want to become an engineer...) you must be a musical engineer.....
anacrusis
apr 21 2007, 12:45 am
my clutch of letters is not huge; i can't put the irrelevant ones in with the other ones though, because my medical ones are as dr unmarried, mbchb mrcgp, and the musical ones as mrs harpsidoc atcl(no, he doesn't have a doctorate, he doctors harpsichords, before anyone asks!)...and note, no doctorate for me either .
mrbouffant
apr 21 2007, 06:59 am
quote(idiotmatthew @ apr 21 2007, 01:34 am) mrbouffant, is it exciting to be a chartered engineer? which engineering discipline do you specialise in? i guess in computer science or information engineering as you have got the fbcs and citp? which subejct are you doing for ur ma? did u start ur music career or ur science career first? i must work harder to collect more letters from now on. i want a ceng toooooo (but i don't want to become an engineer...) you must be a musical engineer..... it's not particularly "exciting", but it helps when either looking for work or trying to establish credibility if working with clients, especially in the industrial field.the ma is in music.my career is in software engineering (my degree is in computer science), the music is "for fun".. i like the sound of being a "musical engineer", like i have a key in my back which you turn and then i play a tune!
idiotmatthew
apr 21 2007, 08:53 am
quote(anacrusis @ apr 21 2007, 01:45 am) my clutch of letters is not huge; i can't put the irrelevant ones in with the other ones though, because my medical ones are as dr unmarried, mbchb mrcgp, and the musical ones as mrs harpsidoc atcl(no, he doesn't have a doctorate, he doctors harpsichords, before anyone asks!)...and note, no doctorate for me either .its cool, you have got a medical degree and a piano diploma. i am so curious that how ppl could acheive so many things in their lives! one of my friends is studying medicine at birmingham and i can "feel" how difficult the subject is when he told me the amount of work he got..quote(mrbouffant @ apr 21 2007, 07:59 am) quote(idiotmatthew @ apr 21 2007, 01:34 am) mrbouffant, is it exciting to be a chartered engineer? which engineering discipline do you specialise in? i guess in computer science or information engineering as you have got the fbcs and citp? which subejct are you doing for ur ma? did u start ur music career or ur science career first? i must work harder to collect more letters from now on. i want a ceng toooooo (but i don't want to become an engineer...) you must be a musical engineer..... it's not particularly "exciting", but it helps when either looking for work or trying to establish credibility if working with clients, especially in the industrial field.the ma is in music.my career is in software engineering (my degree is in computer science), the music is "for fun".. i like the sound of being a "musical engineer", like i have a key in my back which you turn and then i play a tune! lol!! this is the term described by the director of studies of engineering when i went for the uni interview...how could you possibly take so much time out to do another degree, even tho its a part time one. must be very difficult if you study and work at the same time! (my weakest points are c++ and matlab, i really dun like programming. )maybe i have missed some previous posts, but mrbouffant, do you put all of your qualifications, including ur bsc, ceng etc on to your pupils' certificates?
mrbouffant
apr 21 2007, 08:56 am
quote(idiotmatthew @ apr 21 2007, 09:53 am) how could you possibly take so much time out to do another degree, even tho its a part time one. must be very difficult if you study and work at the same time! (my weakest points are c++ and matlab, i really dun like programming. )the ma is a pain to find the time for and i am very lazy so find myself with two days to go to an essay deadline getting into such a state to actually sit down and write it ! i'm sure for anyone with any self-discipline, it would be straightforward!don't know matlab, but c++ is definitely peculiar until the day it will suddenly "click"... !
kerioboe
apr 21 2007, 09:46 am
quote(idiotmatthew @ apr 21 2007, 10:53 am) how could you possibly take so much time out to do another degree, even tho its a part time one. must be very difficult if you study and work at the same time! you have to be organised and disciplined time wise. i researched and wrote my doctoral thesis while teaching full time in a secondary school (and also had two babies in the middle of it). it did take me some time to complete and i would not recommend it as being an easy and stressfree way of getting a phd but it is possible. i would also see babies as more of a "problem" than working full time when you are trying to study.
anacrusis
apr 21 2007, 11:14 am
quote(idiotmatthew @ apr 21 2007, 09:53 am) its cool, you have got a medical degree and a piano diploma. i am so curious that how ppl could acheive so many things in their lives! one of my friends is studying medicine at birmingham and i can "feel" how difficult the subject is when he told me the amount of work he got..recorder, not piano - i have to say, hats off to pianists who get their diplomata - i for one would never manage that one . i am forty two (give or take a month), so have had time to do a few things, and would agree with kerieoboe - it's actually having kids which is the biggest drain on time and energy; didn't play my recorder for about ten years, and only took it up properly about four years ago. thank goodness for the possibilities of part-time work - everyone needs to have a balance between work and the rest of life, and thanks to my family, and to music, i can manage that.*goes to do some more practice, towards a possible ltcl*
elliewelly
apr 21 2007, 11:46 am
my friend puts kathryn ****** rgn on her certificates when she enters pupils (registered general nurse)! i put ba hons pgce and am hoping to add dipabrsm, but then i will have to shorten the version of my name which i use on the entry form, and/ or get rid of my middle initials.
yetanotherpianist
apr 21 2007, 11:50 am
ditch the hons in 'ba hons' if you're short of space .speaking of bachelor degrees, i don't use my bsc on certificates as it's not in music, so i just go for yap dipabrsm. i don't think i'll put phd on either, but i'll allow myself dr rather than mr .
frederic chopin
apr 21 2007, 12:14 pm
quote(mrbouffant @ apr 21 2007, 07:59 am) i like the sound of being a "musical engineer", like i have a key in my back which you turn and then i play a tune! you mean you don't actually have a key in your back?
lone ranger
apr 21 2007, 01:30 pm
now that we've returned to the original subject, i totally agree with carol piano (was it? ages ago anyway), why not put all your qualifications down? they asked for qualifications, so i gave them: ba, atcl. (i didn't specify that the ba was in english lit.) if you don't blow your own trumpet, who else will? i don't think that that's the part of the certificate the candidate sees anyway. they will look to see the magic words "pass", "merit" or "distinction" - forty years later to show to children and g'children. not "oh look, that old codger who must now be pushing up daisies, he had an english literature degree as well as atcl piano. "lr
susiejean
apr 21 2007, 01:40 pm
quote(phil dixon @ apr 20 2007, 03:35 pm) i've got 100meters breast-stroke and my cycling proficiency certificates. do they count?that's a thought. i did a ton of dancing exams when i was younger, and of course there's all my horticultural qualifications!
sarah-flute
apr 21 2007, 10:34 pm
quote(lone ranger @ apr 21 2007, 02:30 pm) now that we've returned to the original subject, i totally agree with carol piano (was it? ages ago anyway), why not put all your qualifications down? they asked for qualifications, so i gave them: ba, atcl. (i didn't specify that the ba was in english lit.) if you don't blow your own trumpet, who else will? i don't know, i just don't especially feel the need to blow my own trumpet on a student's certificate - the fact that i put them in for the exam and they came out with a certificate says it all, surely?
anacrusis
apr 21 2007, 11:16 pm
also, sarah-flute is more known for blowing flutes than trumpets.
sarah-flute
apr 21 2007, 11:33 pm
blowing flutes and playing the fool
susie
apr 22 2007, 03:15 pm
i put down my bsc because i've got a pcge associated with it, so it's sort of relevant, to do with teaching albeit science rather than the piano. but i don't put down other qualifications associated with science because they are not relevant to my current teaching, and there aren't enough letters available (the qualifications are not particularly high-flown, they just have a lot of letters!! )
carol*piano
apr 22 2007, 04:26 pm
quote(sarah-flute @ apr 21 2007, 11:34 pm) quote(lone ranger @ apr 21 2007, 02:30 pm) now that we've returned to the original subject, i totally agree with carol piano (was it? ages ago anyway), why not put all your qualifications down? they asked for qualifications, so i gave them: ba, atcl. (i didn't specify that the ba was in english lit.) if you don't blow your own trumpet, who else will? i don't know, i just don't especially feel the need to blow my own trumpet on a student's certificate - the fact that i put them in for the exam and they came out with a certificate says it all, surely?it's not a matter of "blowing your own trumpet", it's just that an exam is an official situation and one where it is appropriate to use your name and official qualifications. i don't go round in normal life calling myself carol piano bsc
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