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phild菜鸟论坛用户joined: 25 feb 2007posts: 2
posted: mon feb 26, 2007 7:18 pm post subject: developing the vocab section
something i love about chinesepod is the way it gives frequent exposure to a wide range of vocabulary in a lot of different contexts.
but (since exposure alone isn’t enough for effective vocabulary learning – at least once you get beyond the couple of hundred most frequent items in the language), it’s a shame that more isn’t made of the vocab section of the website to back this up.
just giving words with their translation equivalents isn’t enough here (even when supplemented with fun memory games). taken out of context, the meaning of the items becomes unclear, and (probably most important of all) the lexical phrases/collocations which you do such a good job of highlighting in the podcasts disappear completely.
with this in mind, i’m sure it would be a really useful addition to the site if the vocab section could also feature some kind of simple search device (along the lines of the ones at http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/ and http://www.collins.co.uk/corpus/corpussearch.aspx) which would enable users to call up a list of sample sentences from lessons in which a word has appeared.
this should be fairly easy to set up in the first place – just needing a searchable corpus of lesson transcripts – and the possibilities for subsequent refinements would be endless. this sort of ‘data-driven learning’ would seem to fit in well with cp’s input-based approach in general and a website is an ideal place to implement it (a hands down advantage you will always have over paper-based course books).
any chance…?
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eileenchinesepod 团队joined: 14 aug 2006posts: 222
posted: tue feb 27, 2007 3:53 am post subject:
hi phild,
actually, we are developing something like this now. it is not exactly how you describe it but the idea is certainly there.
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phild菜鸟论坛用户joined: 25 feb 2007posts: 2
posted: tue feb 27, 2007 8:48 am post subject:
great!
i look forward to seeing what you come up with
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djsummitt菜鸟论坛用户chinese zodiac: joined: 30 dec 2006posts: 16location: san diego
posted: thu apr 19, 2007 7:30 pm post subject:
this is really silly but can someone point me to the glossary in v3? i can't find it any where.
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eileenchinesepod 团队joined: 14 aug 2006posts: 222
posted: fri apr 20, 2007 3:22 am post subject:
hi dj,
the glossary is still being improved upon by david lancashire, it is currently not available in v3 yet.
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djsummitt菜鸟论坛用户chinese zodiac: joined: 30 dec 2006posts: 16location: san diego
posted: sat apr 21, 2007 12:53 am post subject:
eileen wrote: hi dj,
the glossary is still being improved upon by david lancashire, it is currently not available in v3 yet. thanks eileen!
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xrchz菜鸟论坛用户chinese zodiac: joined: 09 mar 2007posts: 1location: canberra
posted: mon apr 23, 2007 10:24 pm post subject:
is a new and better vocab section still on the way? or is this it?
i'd like to be able to remove duplicate words (especially since v3 vocabulary seems to be different from v2), see more than however many words are displayed on a page at once, add words inline (without having to upload csv), and search by pin yin, hanzi, or english.
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theabc高级论坛用户joined: 11 jul 2006posts: 604location: los angeles
posted: mon apr 23, 2007 11:18 pm post subject:
soap box:
let me introduce you guys to adam sheik's cantodict
it is a user edited dictionary and thus, the words and characters go beyond what is found in a standard print dictionary nor any other online dictionary. most other online dictionaries are derived from a static word and definition set. cantodict is dynamic and utilizes users like you to expand on it, allow terminology to be current with every evolving language.
for example, following this search link for "toilet" and see about a dozen entries are returned for toilet. you will not find so many different toielts in any standard dictionary.
www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/search/?searchtype=4&text=toilet
additionally, some definitions will make notice if the term is cantonese / mandarin / putonghua specific term, along with region differences for taiwan, hong kong, guangdong, singapore, mainland, malaysia, and japan if applicable. many times it will also give the canto or putonghua equivalent. the dictionary also works on both simplified and traditional, providing both side by side when applicable or entered by the user.
it is user edited, so any user can expand the dictionary. if you see a term that is not in the dictionary or query result you can certainly add it. the dictionary is constantly expanded by a group of editiors which you too can become.
the dictionary has over 4000 characters and 38,000 word compounds, but it's not even close to complete. it can use your help!
not to mention, the dictionary has slang and vulgar terms, though you must sign in to for vulgar and slang to be returned._________________粵語語言會
http://www.cantoneselanguage.org
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neo菜鸟论坛用户chinese zodiac: joined: 17 dec 2006posts: 15location: connecticut
posted: wed jun 20, 2007 5:12 pm post subject:
quote: the glossary is still being improved upon by david lancashire, it is currently not available in v3 yet.
so it is now almost the end of june and still no improvement in the functionality of the vocab section and no glossary what-so-ever. how long will this take? i'd like to point out (again) that the glossary and much of the vocab functionality were features present in v2 of the website yet are now simply gone.
i still don't understand how chinesepod justifies taking away functionality that many of us paid good money for. that's like buying a new car that comes with air conditioning and then upon picking it up from the dealer after it's first service interval being informed "oh yeah, you know that air conditioning you paid for? we took it out. sorry. we'll put it back in sometime. maybe..."
what is up with that? _________________there is no spoon...
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